Europe Again!

[BJSLIV]

This BBC presentation, though a little out of date shows just how much scope there is to lie with statistics.

Choose your poison

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per Head.........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm#start

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm#start

[Théière]

[quote user="Quillan"]Exactly Paul which is why in a general election a vote for UKIP is a wasted vote because they won't get in to power as long as your bottom points downwards and they can't get the UK out of Europe by winning in local elections. Mind you it would be rather good fun to watch how they would run a council, somewhere like Bradford or Leicester could be interesting. [;-)][/quote]

So in a democracy we should only go and vote for the party that will win? Ever heard of tactical voting and you still cannot get it out of your head that they are not the BNP and they have an elected member in Croydon which is as run down and multicultural as you will find anywhere and not a black shirt in sight.

[PaulT]

[quote user="Théière"]

[quote user="Quillan"]Exactly Paul which is why in a general election a vote for UKIP is a wasted vote because they won't get in to power as long as your bottom points downwards and they can't get the UK out of Europe by winning in local elections. Mind you it would be rather good fun to watch how they would run a council, somewhere like Bradford or Leicester could be interesting. [;-)][/quote]

So in a democracy we should only go and vote for the party that will win? Ever heard of tactical voting and you still cannot get it out of your head that they are not the BNP and they have an elected member in Croydon which is as run down and multicultural as you will find anywhere and not a black shirt in sight.

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No, you should vote for the one whose main policies you can buy in to. But voting for a party because one of their policies is to get out of the EU is dangerous. You should only vote for them if you can buy in to their other policies. Otherwise, you could end up with an elected party that will try to enact policies that you disagree with.

You mention BNP - do people vote for them 'to get the blacks out' which I am sure some people see as the number one objective or because of their total policies?

[Thibault]

Now that the Lib Dems have 'tainted' themselves by being part of a government and having to make difficult decisions, where else do the 'protest' voters go except to UKIP - which appears to be a 'one trick pony' in terms of what voters believe about them and seems to have only one public figure - Nigel F.

 

It's very unlikely that UKIP would manage to win a seat in an election.  What it will do is steal votes from other political parties and damage the prospects of candidates from parties which do have a proper political programme (whether one believes in it or not).  Nigel F said a few weeks ago that ULIP would fight against Conservatives in seats they are likely to win, and against Labour in seats they are likely to win.  To what end?  To elect Conservatives in Labour seats and Labour in Conservative seats?