Jonzjob Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Well I saw a method of making open spiral thingies and just couldn't resist it! So I started off with a small log hoiked off of the fire wood pile and finished up with one, I hope, of a pair. The wood is slightly spalted beech.I have tried to make these things before, but the method was just not worth the effort. Life is too short for some things, but this one looked promising.The first photo is the rough turning of the overall shape and it progresses.[IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/Jonzjob/Spiralcandle1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/Jonzjob/Spiralcandle2.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/Jonzjob/Spiralcandle5.jpg[/IMG]Next is the right hand thread and from what I can make out it is more difficult! Anyone tell me why? It is quite obvious when you know! I didn't even think about the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Qutie delicious those are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Direction of the leadscrew? Cutter rotation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Head Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Very nice JJ, finished by hand/carved? The style lends itself to BIG, like going out & finding the biggest candle you can and making the holder to suit. As for right & left...no idea, perhaps our brains work easier in one direction than the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Something to do with the direction you must feed work on the router table I would say.I made some chopping boards yesterday out of beech worktop cut-outs, thats 9 people now who are going to get the first Xmas present from me in years. I would quite like to have a crack at the spiral work, I think I have something about it in one of my books hidden away in the attic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Head Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yeah I'd like a crack at that too Chancer but out of a log & with chansaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 That'll be some candle then [:-))][:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 You're right-handed and you turn the candlestick upside down to make it easy?How about making the same with the wooden ball that can run up and down in the middle?[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissie Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Looks great - well done. Was given a 5 man statue in ebony some years back - all intertwined made out of one piece of wood. A project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Cut with a forstner bit and shaped with my tiny Carol sanding drum and a strip of 'J' cloth. No router in sight because of the larger diameter at the top and bottom, but I did think of it!As for your idea Doux Dix-sept, kinky, but not too practical Dukkie!! Plus the idea of one of the balls that I 'may' have turned running up and down? Well I don't know what to say? Sounds like something niponeeze to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 [quote user="Jonzjob"]. No router in sight because of the larger diameter at the top and bottom, but I did think of it![/quote]So you took the photo on the router table just to muddy the waters then!I thought that you had come up with some clever rotary indexing fixture for the router table, I did however see the lay out lines on the rough pieces.Nice work and all the better for knowing that you could have srapped them at any moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 The router table was about the only clear space in my workshop at the time[:$]. No cleaver anything really, just held the piece loosely steady in my drill vice and made sure that the forstner bit was centred on the spiral line each time. The forstner bit is the only drill bit that I know that will drill half a hole and make a lovely clean job of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 [quote user="Chancer"][quote user="Jonzjob"]. No router in sight because of the larger diameter at the top and bottom, but I did think of it![/quote]So you took the photo on the router table just to muddy the waters then!I thought that you had come up with some clever rotary indexing fixture for the router table, I did however see the lay out lines on the rough pieces.Nice work and all the better for knowing that you could have srapped them at any moment.[/quote]Likewise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Yes I often use that to my advantage, yesterday in fact.What is the answer to the LH RH riddle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 Drilling and spiraling right hand apparently causes tearout and if you look at the top photo it looks possible, but I'm not convinced. I'll let you know when I've screwed up the second one [:-))][:-))]Time for me butie sleep now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I would not have thought that a forstner bit would care whether the previous hole that it overlaps is at 2 or 7 "O-clock".- old wives tale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 "- old wives tale"Dunnow about that?[8-)] I'll have to ask the Old Wife!!![blink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 It does cause a bit of tear out with the forstner bit. I gave it a quick sharpen before I did it too![IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/Jonzjob/Twisttearout.jpg[/IMG]I have cleaned a fair bit of it up, but there was definitely a fair bit of tear out. It won't cause a problem because the Carol sander just takes it out. It is a fair bit more awkward to do the sanding though with the twist in the other direction.Tres bizarre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 Well I could now change the title of this thread to Spiral candle sticks because I have done the second. It was more difficult doing the right hand thread. That was mainly due to the orientation of the twist when I was smoothing down the form from the forstner bit cuts. Quite surprising really 'cause I thought it would be very similar.I am pleased with the results but I think that I will spend a bit more time and effort on the finish? Well maybe, but I am a lazy git, so???Oh yes, the candle on the left hand one is now straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Perhaps in the Southern hemisphere then the left hand thread is more difficult...[Www]Very nice, JJ, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Head Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 VERY very nicely done JJ! I so love seeing everybodys work, ideas and inspiration are all around us! Don't know if you can source an Oak log with 40-50 cms heartwood & perhaps 1m high JJ? I'll chuck a few more saws in the car and we'll do it BIG! Just out of interest, how long start to finish for each one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 [quote user="cooperlola"]Perhaps in the Southern hemisphere then the left hand thread is more difficult...[Www]Very nice, JJ, btw.[/quote]Thank you Coops!!I think the hemis-fear thingie is only to do with plug-oles and eau? Not too sure though, I'll have to give it a try? Someday when I'm not busy that is [:-))]Blimey Chris! That wouldn't be a candle stick, that would be a fire beacon stand!Timewise? About 3 hours each. The easy bit is getting them cylindrical, the hardest, on the hands, is sanding the inside of the spirals![:'(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Head Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Exactly JJ! And unique! You get the wood & we'll do it together...hope Mrs JJ can find a spot for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 I don't think that there is any chance of getting a piece of oak anywhere near that size Chris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 Bloody hell! They are reproducing!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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