hakunamatata Posted June 13, 2009 Author Share Posted June 13, 2009 OK I know what you mean, but what are we supposed to kill our weeds with and please dont say dig them up because I would need a JCB here to dig mine up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Round Up, and the manufacturer, Monsanto... not good [:@]Some sobering stuff here http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums/1/1478508/ShowPost.aspx#1478508 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 [quote user="hakunamatata"]OK I know what you mean, but what are we supposed to kill our weeds with and please dont say dig them up because I would need a JCB here to dig mine up![/quote]A flame gun will do the trick. All you do is to singe the leaves which disrupts their molecular structure and that will kill the roots. Chemical free.I agree Clair, Monsanto are BAD NEWS! I'd beter not start on that one though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I'm 'puzzled' to Puzzled? Your link is about decorating???http://www.m6replay.fr/emissions/capital/13500233#/emissions/capital/13500233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 [quote user="hakunamatata"]OK I know what you mean, but what are we supposed to kill our weeds with and please dont say dig them up because I would need a JCB here to dig mine up![/quote]You can dig them up or continue to use the poison. The problem is that while your garden might be prettier without those weeds, it will be full of toxins that will affect the health of generations. It is a popular myth that this product does its magic and then disappears. This was caused by fraudulent advertising. It was designed to kill living things and should not really be surprising that it interrupts cell regulation and interferes with growth. Even in humans. Hello, increase in cancers. Not so pretty, really.In the programme, they stated that just under 50% of water courses tested - including those that supply drinking water - were contaminated with this product. It gets washed out of gardens and fields, down the watercourses and rivers and ends up eventually in the sea, i.e. where the Panga, trout, crevettes and tuna etc. on our plates come from.I think I will give it a miss and pull up the weeds or live with themDanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I'll drink to that Danny, but not with water 'cause I have seen what fish do in it mate!Seriously though, that stuff is bed news big time. I phoned up Monsantos help line once and the woman I spoke to was so polite and told me that there were no problems at all with roundup and that it was safe as soon as it hit the soil! What a load of old bull-poo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 I phoned their help line in UK last year. I had bought round-up to use on our paved drive. On the bottle the label shows a paved drive- but then the instructions say it should not be used on paved areas because of run-off. The VERY NICE MAN said they had to put that on the instructions because of a EU ruling, but to just ignore it as (as above) perfectly safe as soon as dry.We have covered the old, derelict, vegetable patch full of weeds with 2 layers of tarp, then empty lawnmower bag over and spread to get heat- and we will dig it over in the autumn, ready for next Spring. I would rather wait and do the job properly and safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Money, money, money is everything init! Or at least for these people it is..Safe when it's dry? What happens when it gets wet again I wonder and gets washed into the rain drain and beyond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 So we all seem to agree, bad news. But how can we influence those around us, especially in France, who still believe that it is an innocent little helper?Just been doing some French Googling - there is some very interesting info on extensive studies by Caen University which proves clearly that roundup is extremely toxic even at very low dosage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Amaranth (pigweed) is resistant to Roundup - I don't know much about that, and about all the implications, but it is supposedly causing a lot of headaches. (Sorry if it has been mentioned before but I haven't followed the Roundup debate trail, as I would never use it myself - although I do know some seasoned botanists, supposedly interested in conservation and who specialise in mosses and lichens, who have no scruples using it and assure everyone that it is OK!!!). http://pattricejones.info/blog/archives/514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I cannot watch the M6 programme (software probs).It is fascinating to see that Roundup has created some superweeds which are completely resistant to it, and are therefore, unmanageable. This link shows the connection between Roundup resistant weeds, and GMOshttp://www.france24.com/en/20090418-superweed-explosion-threatens-monsanto-heartlands-genetically-modified-US-crops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris pp Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I just love this bit from the article.""Indeed, according to Monsanto press releases, company sales representatives are encouraging farmers to mix glyphosate and older herbicides such as 2,4-D, a herbicide which was banned in Sweden, Denmark and Norway over its links to cancer, reproductive harm and mental impairment. 2,4-D is also well-known for being a component of Agent Orange, a toxic herbicide which was used in chemical warfare in Vietnam in the 1960s.""Bless their little Monsanto GM cotton socks.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Come now Chris, is there a slight dig in the last bit there?You know as well as I do that they have the best intrests of the world in general and nature in particular as their promised aim. It's no good, I can't say that and keep a straight face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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