barneysfriends Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 our pool is being finished off and filled as I type....at which point should we, or must we fit an alarm? I suppose that even with a few inches of water in it, there is a danger (despite the fact that my french neighbours pool, less than five meters away from ours has no alarm!)We have been told that we must have the alarm fitted by an installer, by law. If that is tha case why do they sell them in the shops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apero Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 [quote user="barneysfriends"] our pool is being finished off and filled as I type....at which point should we, or must we fit an alarm? I suppose that even with a few inches of water in it, there is a danger (despite the fact that my french neighbours pool, less than five meters away from ours has no alarm!)We have been told that we must have the alarm fitted by an installer, by law. If that is tha case why do they sell them in the shops?[/quote]Unless you want the alarm going off; wait till the pool is filled.[Www] You don't need to fit an alarm, you have a choice of 4 conforming pool security, alarms, covers, fencing and abri, and yes; you are required by law to have conforming pool security. Sounds like someone is trying to earn extra bucks, you may fit the (conforming) alarm yourself just follow the installation instructions.We had one, now we have a conforming fence and gate....... we have toddlers visiting.So much debate about pool security, it is an emotive subject. Best for all to be safety concious. The French are not exempt from the law. Apero[B] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 [quote user="barneysfriends"]We have been told that we must have the alarm fitted by an installer, by law. If that is tha case why do they sell them in the shops?[/quote]That may or may not be the case - 'Poolguy' will know. But the reason they're sold in the shops is that many (most) pools already existed before the law came in to being in Jan 2006 (for private dwellings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaud Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 As I understand it the pool cannot be filled unless there is some kind of conforming safety system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apero Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 [quote user="Gardian"][quote user="barneysfriends"] We have been told that we must have the alarm fitted by an installer, by law. If that is tha case why do they sell them in the shops?[/quote].......... But the reason they're sold in the shops is that many (most) pools already existed before the law came in to being in Jan 2006 (for private dwellings).[/quote][:-))] In your opinion. [B] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardian Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Apero .........Suggest you re-read my reply. I honestly don't know whether an installer is required to fit an alarm for new installations, but that seems to have been confirmed by a subsequent post (and it would make sense for that to be the case). All that I said definitively was in answer to the question "Why are they now sold in shops?" The answer wasn't opinion, just logic (or to put it bluntly, blindingly obvious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poolguy Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Please let me clarify.The law as it can be translated is that:an alarm (in fact any compliant device) shall be fitted in accordanceto the manufacturers instructions, and an attestation to which shouldbe available from the person who did the installation. Now this in noway precludes anyone from fitting the alarm. What it does do is levelthe responsibility for the correct working of the alarm to theinstaller, viz; they must follow the instructions. If there is an incident and the alarm is not installed correctly orspecified correctly then the installer will be included in any actionwhich might be taken as a consequence.I hope that this is clear.However, there are other circumstances where this might change, forexample, during the sale of a property for instance, the buyer mightinsist on a 'professional attestation' for the installation - I wouldjudge that reasonable.I think that you all know that I do not approve of alarms as the soleform of protection, I would recommend and prefer that my clients use analarm as a backup or second level of security to another form ofcompliant security.Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apero Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 [quote user="Gardian"]Apero .........Suggest you re-read my reply. I honestly don't know whether an installer is required to fit an alarm for new installations, but that seems to have been confirmed by a subsequent post (and it would make sense for that to be the case). All that I said definitively was in answer to the question "Why are they now sold in shops?" The answer wasn't opinion, just logic (or to put it bluntly, blindingly obvious). [/quote]Well Gardian, you really should read mine, again. You can fit an alarm yourself, following the fitting instruction to the L E T T E R and security will be basic and compliant. I do not have the opinion, that an alarm alone is sufficient; cheapest conforming security-yes, penny pinching security-yes, together with one of the other 3 forms of conforming security-better-yes. 'Why are they sold in shops'-because; they can be is the definitive answer, which is logical.Read 'poolguy' respons; which says it all.[B]Apero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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