Orange reduced Spam (sounds like a weird recipe!)

[Quillan]

Danny, I agree with you. The way I read it is...

"Un vrai spam dont l'expéditeur ne figure pas dans votre liste verte arrive dans votre boîte aux lettres. Il est analysé et bloqué par l'anti-spam Orange. Afin de ne pas encombrer votre boîte de réception, il est déposé dans un dossier spécifique (appelé indésirables). "

"true spam whose sender is not in your allow (Green - added by me just to clarify) list arrives in your mailbox. It is analyzed and blocked by anti-spam Orange. In order not to clutter your inbox, it is deposited in a specific folder (called indésirables)."

The problem may lay in the word bloqué and the context it's used in. It is "bloqué" from your inbox but simply ends up in your "indésirables" folder instead. It is not deleted or blocked completely from the system. I think this may have something to do with French law in that even though they (Orange) know it's junk they do no have the right to delete it. As a user you can change this to 'Delete' the emails but it's for you to change how it works, the default is to move it.

[Danny]

tj does have a good point that in using any free email service - whether web based, like hotmail or ISP based, like Orange or Talk Talk - one is limited by the terms and conditions of that service and the provider can basically do as they please with your messages.

Whether any messages are deleted or not by Orange.fr without your permission as in this discussion, they can change the terms of your email service or even lose your emails and there is nothing you can do. It is a free service. This is something a lot of people take for granted.

Although you pay a subscription for the ADSL (or other) service, the email service is not normally part of that service. It is usually offered as a free extra without any obligation or guarantee of service on their part. Orange do offer a paid for mail service too and an ADSL service for professionals which has different email services.

To have full control over your email, it is best to use a personal email linked to your own domain name. This does cost a little money but you are not at the mercy of any linked ISP account or web service like Yahoo or Hotmail which although unlikely, may stop functioning or become a paid for service etc.

Danny

[Chrissie]

We have had little or no Spam since the beginning of the year, compared with 100 or so per day prior to that.  Looked at our Orange mail site and we have nothing in our indesirables folder, so everything is either being blocked before it arrives or is coming through. 

I feel sorry for the poor b******s who WANT to buy their Viagra online!  [:)]

Chrissie (81)

[sid]

I'm coming to the conclusion that it's the source of the spam, as Mr CdL suggested earlier, that has stopped sending.

It certainly makes a change not to see a pile of rubbish every morning (it always seemed to arrive overnight).

[pitway]

I too have seen my spam email reduce to practically nothing since the beginning of the year.

I had occasion to send an email to a friend yesterday, it consisted of a quick one line note plus a link to a website that they were interested in, it got returned, here indoors wanted the same site so sent it to her to save me reading and spelling it out, that got returned too with the following reason

<[email protected]>: host

smtp.wanadoo.fr[80.12.242.53] said: 550 5.2.0

    Mail rejete. Mail rejected. OFR_506 [506] (in reply to end of DATA

command)

It does seem a big coincidence with sudden disappearance of spam and an increase of rejected mail, I have also had read receipts to wanadoo/orange addresses returned. 

Now don't get me wrong, I am pleased to be getting no spam, but I am a bit concerned that genuine email is getting rejected, fine if it is being sent by someone that knows you and has another adress for you, but I receive work related emails from unknown people, how much business am I missing out on?????

Tim