Nick Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Hi,I have just had a quote from a reputable mason to re-point our stone cottage. Cost for 165 sq metres is €12,000. this works out at approx €72 per sq. metre. Does this sound correct, I know the materials are relatively cheap, but the labour to chip out the old and re-point is time consuming.?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinks Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Sounds like to much to me .Around her (dep24) they charge about 30/50 euros m2 .But every job is different (access, condition of existing walls/mortar ) We did 144m2 on are small barn and the materials cost 5 euros m2.But then we are not having to pay half of that to the government . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 That does sound a bit steep, but as dinks suggests, it may vary depending upon how difficult the preparation is going to be. If your house has a hard cement-based mortar, that may take some removing before the new can be applied. If it's soft lime-based stuff, the old mortar can be cleaned out pretty easily. You might consider doing the preparation yourself? It is pretty mind-numbing work, but you can get whizzy gizmos that fit onto an angle grinder or drill that dig the stuff out in a jiffy, although you have to have a very steady hand if you're not going to stray into your stonework. (Mortar should always be softer than the stone, so the rake should follow the mortar, but sometimes you hit something hard and away you go!) You can pick up a cheap angle grinder for about £10 these days, although the mortar rake attachment may cost you as much. It could save you a lot of money in the long run though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Avery Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 This is not fantastically pricey, if it is with TVA, although they often remove the old stuff with a water blaster and pressure spray (so be prepared for a lot of mess), putting it back takes time and care and a good finish is deirable, is it not? Go and see what your macon has done elsewhere, ask him for the locations, he will be happy to tell you. If you think he is expensive, get another devis, exactly the same as you would have done in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Avery Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 If you have not got proper scaffolding or are used to using an angle grinder up a ladder, I would forget this advice, it is plain dangerous[^o)] What is more likely to happen is " you hit something hard" and away go your fingers[:@]. Soft lime snd mortar can be easily removed with a pressure sprayer, if you can use one where you live without drowning the street and the neighbours, but what macon who has a choice of work, is going to take on a job that you have half done to save paying him? Would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeb Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Hi Nick - where are you? Around here in the Charente it cost around 35 euros a sq. metre a couple of years ago, probably gone up a bit by now. We've just done a large interior wall which took ages. I had a guy in to scrape it all out (he took a couple of days) as I couldn't face that but used we used Parex (a dry mix in 25 kgs sacks in local colour) to repoint. I think many macons nowadays spray it on and then brush it off to expose the stones so you may have to factor in more equipment - compressor etc and several guys to brush it back before it hardens.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Nick,72 euros per m2 seems towards the top end of the scale but certainly not excessively. For re-pointing, we charge per job, and our pricing depends on several factors such as; Is scaffolding required? Are existing joints large/small/soft/hard? Are we going to sandblast or pressurewash? Are we going to use ready mixed product or mix our own? All these criteria affect the cost of the job so have to be taken into account. Another factor is the weather. Timing is crucial in re-pointing which can make the difference between a crappy job and a professional finish, in terms of how long you leave the product before 'brossage'.I will try to put some photos in this post of a recent job we did which worked out at about 59 euros per m2, using a ready bagged product, scaffolding, sandblasting, and with large holes between the stones. We actually underestimated the quantity of sacks required here and needed another 30! So perhaps I should have charged 72 euros! See photos links below.regards, Paulhttp://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2114972436&idx=2http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2114972436&idx=3http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2114972436&idx=12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Avery Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 This link does not work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Ron, try the first three links which now work. There must be an easier way to get photos on here! regards,Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeb Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Well I got the whole show on my iMac! Thanks Paul - really impressed. Did it (the repointing) take long and where did you get the huge barn door/window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 Thanks for all replies. I'm told that the mason is very thorough and a lot of holes have been filled with cement, so could take longer than usual to make good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Thanks. It took about 3 weeks with two men. That was also the back and gable end. All the windows and doors were made to measure by a local menuisiere. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceni Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Some of our internal walls have just been repointed. Raking the mud out of the joints had already been done so the price of a touch under €23 per m2 (+ TVA) would reflect this. Scaffolding was needed for the gable end but elsewhere there was only a bit of step ladder work if the guys were not tall enough. The only power tool used was a mixer. But we live in the rural and deprived (depraved ?) Lot. Johnno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baca Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 This thread is several years old could someone give an update on pointing costs for 2011? Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqui Too Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 We have just had 116 m2 done on the front and side elevation of our house along with other works but the repointing is priced below; Echafaudage de sécurité 1 face et 1 pignon (two lift scaffolding) 5.50€ Piquage des joints et sablage (Rake out and clean off render/crepi and high power pressure wash) 12.00€ Jointoiement couleur au choix (Repoint in coloured lime mortar) 36.00€ This was done by a specialist firm who did a fantastic job, but boy was it messy, think most of our wall ended up in the neighbours pool!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chezstevens Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Jackie,So about €53 sq m? We paid <28 € sq m 8 yrs ago, with devis and facture in southern Deux-Sevres. God bless inflation in the building trade :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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