Gluestick

[quote user="woolybanana"]Farage is finish and seeking publicity; pathetic[/quote] He's not Finnish: he was born in the UK! [:P] Clearly old fruit, your legs are shaking since you watched Loose Women! [Www]

[quote]Allez, Loose Women is just about to start on ITV.[/quote] A programme about whores? Ideal for crusty old men dreaming of what once was... [:D]

N'avez-vous pas un miroir? [Www]

[quote user="Patf"] Mostly the classics, but I also love Gershwin's songs, which are surprisingly difficult to play. He must have been so clever technically. [/quote] He was indeed, Pat. His tour de force being, surely, Rhapsody in Blue? BTW: Ms Gluey and I have been collecting re-recorded music from the 1920s and 1930s/40s for many years and we have many of the old standards, including, of course, Gershwin.

[quote user="Patf"]ps Gluestick might like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBkF_priCUE One of my favourite youtube clips. [/quote] Thank you, Pat and yes I very much did. Not actually sure if I like the soprano sax. a sort of cross over with the clarinet which when played by such as Goodman I prefer. That said, my favourite sax player (tenor) is/was Stan Getz. And one of my  favourite Getz pieces is this: Blue Skies. here: When I started, trying, to learn to play sax, I had the wrong instrument, an alto sax. Well according to my teacher who played Tenor. Why did I try and learn Alto? Mainly 'cos I adored Take Five and Paul Desmond the sax player with Brubeck played Alto! I did realise, however later on, how much I loved the deep "bark" of a tenor sax; hence Stan Getz. Another great relaxing one here... Here:

You should get together with Mrs Gluey, Sue. Loves to sing, but changes pitch about five times in each bar! [:D] Now sings when vacuuming, cooking, gardening, whatever. However, as an early ballet dancer she has great poise and stance: and very good expressive body language. and loves all music, as do I. Years back we went to a 60th birthday of one of her then directors, Derek; lovely man. Bored, as I tend to be as such gatherings I wandered into the large conservatory and found a large splendid electronic organ. Derek and I chatted: I am something of a musician too, having played rock guitar, sax, drums etc. Dragging out some music, Derek and I started quietly having fun. Gradually, all the other guests (seems they were bored witless too with the meaningless tittle tattle) drifted in. A small Northern lady (known in the office as The Poison Dwarf - oh life can be cruel) also came in and turned out she loved to sing but was also utterly tone deaf! Not dismayed Mrs G and the PD formed an instant duo and started singing popular songs; older stuff from musicals etc; and they both had wondrous body movements and passion and really put their hearts into it and sang their little socks off! The audience were both rolling around with laughter and speechless with admiration......... And gave a long round of applause and shouts of "Encore!" Which makes one think................. [8-)]

[quote user="alittlebitfrench"]That is France. It is either you play by the system and rules or you don't. It takes a bold man to try and break the rules of France.[/quote] You are really now, ALBF, having a larf! [:D] In rural areas, everyone and his wife has a little earner on the black! In Provence it is far worse! Symbiosis for survival. Obviously, in major towns and cities for salary men and women, then the chances and opportunities are far less or non-existent. In our little Commune, population circa 120, it is rife: even amongst the many who work for a major French company (the major local employer).

Seems Juppé's chances are weakened, as the Muslim Brotherhood have been ordering (in Mosques) their members to join! Romain Caillet, who writes for French newspaper Libération has uncovered this. Interesting exchanges here: Apparently, Juppé is known in Bordeaux, as Ali....

[quote user="NormanH"] Fillon can hardly be called a moderate. He has the most neo-con economic policy of the candidates, and 'voted against same-sex marriage when it was introduced by the Socialist president François Hollande, and had the support of the traditional Catholic right. Claiming to stand for Christian family values, he has campaigned against medically assisted procreation for single women or lesbian couple' [/quote] Sounds like a stout bloke... [Www]

[quote user="alittlebitfrench"]Gluey said: "The huge differential between crazy UK house prices and French house prices" That is the biggest myth about France. That is where those moving to France make such a mistake and will continue to do so. Houses in 'mainstream' France are as expensive as the UK. In rural France, the houses appear cheap but they are not cheap relative to salaries and the cost of living. I have made that point so many times. If you want to move to France and live in 'prosperous functioning France' you need at least a budget of at 350,000-400,000 euros for a half decent place. If you buy a cheap property and do it up you may not be able to sell. For me, that is a very expensive property.[/quote] Remember, ALBF, the time I was recalling - which was the period of the biggest migration to France - the Pound sat at 1.71++ to the Euro. Which meant many people could sell up in UK, pay off their mortgage and buy a French house with NO MORTGAGE and capital remaining. For example, a close friend purchased a farm house not far from us, just circa 30 minutes further inland. Much of the conversion done and very liveable in. Full rewire, gas central heating; loads of land and some great dependences. Big ones. 1999 cash €90,000. Pounds then = £53,000. Where most invariably went wrong, was spending their capital too fast with no plan to cover living expenses; plus, spending far too much on improvements and renovations.

[quote]He has the most neo-con economic policy of the candidates, and 'voted against same-sex marriage when it was introduced by the Socialist president François Hollande, and had the support of the traditional Catholic right. Claiming to stand for Christian family values, he has campaigned against medically assisted procreation for single women or lesbian couple'[/quote] Sounds like a pretty solid bloke, then! [:P] [Www]

Not wishing to sound accusatory, ALBF, at times, you seem to have a rather strange attitude towards a majority of people, Brits included, over a move to France. Surely, people relocate to various places around this globe, and for all different sorts of reasons; which are unique, often to them. Thus it must be impossible (as with most aspects of the human dynamic) to pigeon-hole people and their actions? I am sure, most of us would accept many relocated to la belle: 1.    For wrong reasons; mainly due to lack of initial research: 2.    They were affected by the rose tinted specs perspective and, to employ the vulgar Americanism,  "Sold a false bill of goods". Much of this was thanks to endless media property porn programmes and articles; shows; magazines; and multiple newspaper articles extolling how Fred Dipstick and his partner Sally Silly, sold up in Britain, moved to, say, the Gard and set up a Chambre d'Hôte/Vineyard whatever and gushed how wonderful it all was! And how their kids were loving it too! One wonders if they are, still? The huge differential between crazy UK house prices and French house prices clearly was a massive driver back in  the late 1990s and early 2000s. People could sell up and for less than they had post-mortgage settlement, buy what appeared to be paradise. Detached house; land; space. Common in Brittany and indeed, Pas de Calais. They tended to spend most of their capital on a mix of renovation and critically, turning their innocent French house into the sort of suburban Surrey faux residence they had always dreamed about. Yet could never ever afford... Only after all this, did they realise they must WORK! To earn a living and pay the bills and put food on the table! Learning the French language and etc, came later; when they realised the only gainful work was plucking chickens in an abattoir or similar. For peanuts. However, those fools apart (most of them have scuttled back to Blighty, now), many more sensible people, relocated for different reasons; obviously work being just one. Much of their own personal reasons, I would suggest, are regional: clearly, France and life, tends to be wildly different in different regions. Which is one of the things I love about metropolitan France: it is almost a number of different countries in one. Same with Spain, really; since Catalonia is very different from Andalusia and say Galicia: ¡ viva la difference !

[quote user="alittlebitfrench"]Ending mass immigration ??? Good, there are too many British living in France today for my liking bringing their sky boxes, large satellite dishes, and selling those disgusting pork pies on markets. [/quote] I fear it is not Brits Marine le Pen is talking about... Have you ever been to Borough Street Market, in Southwark? [quote]BLIMEY, they would have absolutely hated La Belle France 20 years ago. LOL. No internet, no sky, the driving was terrible, rudeness was a sport. They would have never of lasted a week.[/quote] Well, I for one didn't; I loved it. from the late 1950s onwards. Internet: few people in Europe, Britain included, had internet connections in 1996. (Pipex introduced the first sloooow dial-up in 1992 and I had it in 1998. And broadband was a future dream... large users in main commercial towns had ISDN. (Pipex: by November 1993 provided Internet service to some 150 customer sites.) Driving: have you been around the Périphérique in Paris recently? Or in Caen? Or driven in rush hour in Toulouse?  Or the cross link between the A16 and A26 heading towards Calais and the port and Eurotunnel in rush hour? Pyrénées-Orientales was wonderful in the late 1980s and even up to 1991 and on: Perpignan, Argeles Sur Mere, Port Vendre, Collioure et al. However, whilst amusing, all this badinage has little connection to what the French citizen and voter feels. Excellent object lessons of recent; they laughed at Farage, Dave called him "A closet racist and a swivel-eyed loon!". Dave?? Dave?? Dave who?? Same with Trump...

Now this ought to galvanise yet some more heated debate! See here: (It is from the Telegraph, BTW) Now, for those who love la belle France, as it always used to be (moi included), what is there to honestly and without pre-extant bias and prejudice to disagree with these objectives? [quote] Major policies Withdrawing from the EU and the euroProtecting the French economy from “unfair” competition and globalisationGiving priority to French citizens in jobs and housingEnding mass immigrationTaking a tough stance on law and order issuesReasserting French cultural identityBeing a strong and independent France in defence and foreign affairs “The National Front is the only party to defend an authentic French Republic, a Republic with only one vocation: the national interest, the development of French employment, the conservation of our way of life, the development of our tradition and the defence of all the French.” - Marine Le Pen, December 2015" [/quote] In the North particularly, over the past 16 years Mrs Gluey and I have watched the traditional French lifestyle eroded at an accelerating rate, as globalisation and the invasion of American products, take-overs by the usual enemies, Pepsico, CCS et al, American media junk, dumb loud noise masquerading as "music" and the rapidly growing market for ready meals in local supermarchés. Obesity is now growing at an almost exponential rate (no pun intended!). Good home cooking? Our French friends bemoan that their children once they leave home, don't cook. Good for a country?

I much agree. Idun. My first job in the City, whilst still studying, after taking my intermediate exam at commercial college, was with a shipping line. All the rather complex calcs (translating shipping manifests into freight charges - bearing in mind freight was then charged according to weight, type of cargo carried, cube etc) was completed by the Comp girls. Not dumb bunnies by a long way. Sumlock was then the most common comptometer. These were used in engineering, too, working out pretty complex stuff. They were the next advance from a slide rule (I still have mine!) and the early mechanical calculator. A great book to read in order to recapture those times, is the late great author Neville Shute's (Neville Shute-Norway) part autobiography, Sliderule. Norway was a young engineering grad who worked on complex calculations on the airships of the 1930s; and finished up Chief Calculator. Next step were the glowing neon tube calculators; I used to use of of those in the city.They were common and just before the digital solid state jobs were introduced. The first being the Texas Instrument item. I still have two originals in my collection. History: Burroughs:

[quote user="Cathar Tours"]Judging by those that comment on the 60's it would seem that they are between 60 and 70 years old and benefited from free university courses (yes I know their parents had to part fund them). [/quote] Very few people of that generation attended university; obviously as one considered the middle middle and upper middle class it was more usual. Nothing is or ever was "free". Undergrads still had to live somewhere, eat, clothe themselves, buy their books etc. Plus they or their parents had, as you say, to part-fund costs. Neither I nor my two brothers went to university, despite my father being a very successful and wealthy man. However, my elder brother, an engineer specialising in electronics, radar defence matters, and later datacom, finished up with a doctorate. My younger brother became a banker and towards the end of his career was an executive of a major Gulf State bank. I became an accountant. Indeed, taking articles as a solicitor or accountant was much more common. My school was an excellent and much respected grammar and the upper classes tended to create university material and my alma mater boasts cabinet ministers, bishops, bankers, scientists et al in gay profusion. In my middle life I became involved in education and HFE and became a university External Examiner and Moderator and ad hoc lecturer. On top of my professional career. Government encouraged more and more youngsters to attend university, originally, to cut youth unemployment figures and also encouraged and funded a slew of ersatz "universities" and silly degree courses, which has become out of control. No point in an bit of paper unless it assists obtention of gainful employ and a decent career. [quote] Germany seems a good bet and they desperately want R&D engineers with masters[/quote] Thought they had now imported tens of thousands of them, along with the myriad of doctors, surgeons, rockets scientists etc? [Www] Good to learn you are an engineer. Hope your plans include fluent German! [quote]Thanks to that age group which predominantly voted to leave the EU our futures in the UK are well and truly screwed.[/quote] Sheer arrant nonsense! The way things are going, you might well be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire! Rather, approach such as Dyson.

Sorry Linda; forgot one critical bit! The topic was Trump: and the statements from Wooly and others re woman's rights etc. Which is America: and it is very clear (hence the CDC quote) the USA has seen a massive increase in STDs in the past few years.

[quote user="lindal1000"]I don't know Gluestick..I agree with some of what you say..I'm just not sure young people are any more promiscuous than they've ever been. Everyone was supposed to swinging in the 60s but I'm not sure how many actually did. [/quote] Well, a few years back, some chums and I held a group reunion: a group of young keen musicians. As we blew the froth off, we chatted about the supposed Free Love and Swinging Sixties and all agreed, we didn't find any! Discussing this with younger friends from the 70s era, it was clear the social rebellion of the anti-establishment movement of the 60s, took root in more average kids in the 1970s. At times then, I used to mix with, here and there some of them, mainly through business. If one of the large local disco group wasn't drinking and stated "I'm taking meds and can't drink." Then the others would mention "Oxytet" and shout "He's got a dose!" Now later in the 70s, having sold my business and liquidated my property portfolio, I returned to the City and entered money broking, which was a new rapidly growing activity, at this time. And yes, the drinking, for some was simply lunatic. And that was about that. A few years back, Mrs Gluey and I had been in Andalusia, staying with friends and flew with Buzz. The return flight from Malaga was an utter nightmare! A horde of money dealers from the City boarded; it was clear they were utterly bladdered already and demanded more; cabin crew said no way. Their behaviour was appalling. I asked one who they were and what they had been doing; he explained, they were City dealers and had had a quick weekend in Spain. The row immediately in front of us, was full with drink dealers; and one girlie was laying all over their laps and in a loud well spoken voice was bemoaning that if she didn't get moving, then she would miss her target of screwing 100 guys in one year: it was October........... next one team leader (older guy) took out his mobile and called someone as we were in process of final approach. Not louche? University supposed students? Seen the bit about Durham this last week?

Hoddy: First, let me say, at no time do I or indeed, did I suggest "It's the womens' fault!" Clearly, my understanding is it normally takes two to tango; unless my biology master was misinformed... Thus clearly, the corollary must be concluded as louche behaviour including two persons of opposite sex. You of course are aware of serious STD infection reaching epidemic levels; and accelerating? Furthermore, in particular, both Gonorrhea and Syphilis present with multiple re-infections, increasingly and both have mutated into "Super" state and are increasingly anti-biotic resistant. Here: CDC (Centre for Disease Control: Atlanta Georgia) is the international "clearing house" and somewhat credible... Also Here: I discuss such matters, regularly, with my cousin a retired Professor of Microbiology who is still a noted authority and regularly contributes to learned papers and chairs meetings. Still what does he know............. Logically and inescapably, this worrying phenomenon cannot be the result of society comprised of stable monogamous relationships, now can it! Moving to genetic disease and predisposition; a large number of such conditions can now be predicted, pre-pregnancy and therefore, responsible personal behaviour militates against such results as a compromised child. Personally, in various social and community involvements, I have watched, over the past 30 years, the behaviour of younger people degenerate into feckless irresponsibility. So yes, louche behaviour. I am sure, where and when genetic illness, accident and/or contributory circumstances outside a person's direct control cause pregnancy (rape e.g.) then there will always remain an excellent case for early termination. A society having and accepting abortion-on-demand, no questions; no justifications, is a failed and degenerate society, which is in process of destroying itself. A cousin had a Down's Syndrome child; subsequent investigation into the family (I was part of this, attending Guy's Hospital for sampling) discovered my late Mother's side suffered a chromosome deficiency. One "Leg" of the "U" was missing. This was probably caused by her father foolishly marrying his cousin. My chromosomes are normal. However, my cousin, bless her, raised the babe, a girl, and worked hard to ensure the lass had a very good and full life. She died when  she was circa 30, which is normal. My younger brother, who is also a fool, also married his cousin: and both suffer the chromosome deficiency and thus elected not to have children. Many years ago, I worked with a charming man, my then mentor, who had been a Battle of Britain Hurricane pilot, lovely person. As I knew him better and then met his lovely wife, it turned out they too had a Downs' Syndrome child. Together with Sir John Barberolly and Valerie Hobson (Profumo's wife), they founded what was then called The Mongol Society, as a charity (now, of course, no longer a PC name.). He and his wife again, worked tirelessly and ensured their child had serious remedial life-style assistance and teaching and lived a full life. Abortion, today, seems on par with marriage or a kitchen: "Don't like it! Junk it and start over!" A good prescription for a stable and successful society?

[quote user="Cathar Tours"] State of Fear is fiction and not fact. [/quote] Agree but then so is the majority of "Climate Change" propaganda. Your comment, sadly, Cathar Tours damned itself to perdition when you made the infamous statement, "Climate change, global warming, well it's here, it's real and it's happening just look at today's newspapers.". (I was tempted - very - at this point to insert my favourite Roll On The Floor Laughing emoticon!) The point of reading State of Fear (Remembering Crichton himself was a scientist), is the wealth of actual verified data; plus the central plank wherein a failing quasi-academic, creates a monument organisation based upon lies and fear and is earning far too much money and has far too much credibility to back down and admit he was and is wrong. I could inundate you with credible scientific from leading real scientists, rather than the failed academics who created a new dodgy discipline called "Climate Change", however, clearly pretty pointless as you have already bought into the scam. Comparing the clown Dan Brown to Crichton is an insult to the late man's memory. You might, however, like to take a look through these webrefs. As always there are some nut jobs, however I wouldn't class Forbes Magazine that way? here:

[quote user="woolybanana"]And where would you put Obama on your list, Chessie? Not a blemish, personally, as far as I can see, [/quote] So nice of Obama to visit Britain and order us to vote remain wasn't it! What did he actually achieve? Really? [quote]..........yet his administration was harrassed right from the start by the radical Right even to the point of their trying to prove he was a Muslim and not born in America. These are the little people you seem proud to be associated with.[/quote] Huh? [8-)] The Little People? The American GOP represents the little people? What are you smoking, Wooly? Is it nice! The GOP represents first and foremost Big Capital, Big Biz and Big Oil et al. The Little Guy is simply an embarrassing and annoying minor irritation, only to be pandered to at election time. And is the dysfunctional connect and legitimate grievance that has caused precisely the groundswell of huge distrust and discontent, which has caused what you sneer at and call populism. Remember perhaps the wise words of perhaps the greatest US president of all, Lincoln. Who said: "You can fool some of the people all of the time; you can fool all of the people some of the time. But you cannot fool ALL of the people, ALL of the time!" Furthermore, perhaps it is time to remind ourselves of Lincoln's most famous speech of all, The Gettysburg Address; where he quoted the guiding ethic of the GOP. "Government of the people; by the people and for the people!" He did not say what we have today: "Government of the people by the government; and for the sole good of the government; and their well-heeled chums." [quote]As for Trump, well the advisors appointed so far are pretty extreme, being advocates of climate destruction, removal of women's rights, destruction of health care rights.[/quote] Climate Change; oh, you've been sucked in by this scam and myth too, then. Read the late Michael Crichton's tour de force, "State of fear" and perhaps think again? EDITED BY MODERATOR Health Care; Well, if you were really following this, Wooly, then you would know Trump has already agreed to retain Obamacare but with certain sensible amendments.

[quote user="chessie"]Never heard of that 'assy wotsit' before - explains a lot. Many people are puzzled as to why the Spanish/Hispanics/Mexicans voted for Trump - total disbelief from some people I have chatted with - total disbelief .[/quote] Excellent summation, chessie. Thank you. Might be because: 1. Trump employs all races and colours himself, rather than waxing loudly about racism, equality and the rest of the endless tripe: And: .2. Researching and seeking some hard facts here and there over the weekend, it is clear the massive swing in the black states, was simply because they hoped Trump WILL provide actual jobs. as against streams of political polemic, brave words and empty hollow rhetoric. [quote]Look at the Clintons for heavens' sake - really look at them and their advisors; could anyone posting on here actually admit to wanting to vote for HC - really ?  Don't they remind anyone of the Kinnocks, the Blairs - and many other 'political families' who think they have the 'right' to become political families.[/quote] When Clinton came into the presidency, a grizzled old political commentator wrote "Seems we now have a blow-waved turkey in the White House!" He wasn't far wrong. Shortly after, the new presidency was described as the "Billary Clinton Presidency"! Make no mistake, H R Clinton is one smart cookie; and it was her who did the thinking, manipulating and strategy. Bill was just simply her mouthpiece and the puppet to her strings. In early 1997, I met Cherie Booth in Sir Gordon Borrie's chambers (eminent QC who had previously been Chief Exec of the Office of Fair Trading for some years.). I took a group of clients and my solicitor in, for a briefing and discussion. Serious Employment Law matter; unfair dismissal of a group. She was much thinner then and actually rather waiflike and attractive. Believe me, this woman was and remains as sharp as a whip!  Bliar was then in opposition. Cherie told us all the wondrous things they would do when "We're in power!". And they didn't do any of 'em. Clearly again, NuLab was the Tone and Cherie show; with him, once more as the front man mouth and she as the thinker. Interesting when HRC was constantly excoriating Trump, how the little matter of how the Billarys had managed to amass a fortune of in excess of $340 million.......was somehow forgotten. [Www]

Well, Linda; I would not be at all surprised if Farage works for Trump's new administration as a sort of ex-officio adviser. As with so many before him, he has achieved his first political objective - Brexit - and now, as is normal, UKIP are embroiled in the prototypical internecine ego battles of wannabes, desperate to steal Farage's cloak. It was ever thus. remember Robert Killroy Silk? An orange-faced failed Labour MP, with delusions of grandeur, importance and an inflated egotist too boot. Not well known in the USA? Quite the reverse, actually. In media and political circles he has become a name. Did you actually watch the Fox News clip? Interesting how the newscaster, treated Farage with far greater respect than any interviewer on UK media, particularly that precious pompous clown Dimbelby!

I love the endless repetition of the stock buzz and pejorative sobriquets! Xenophobic; Racist; Homophobic; Bigot, Fascist et al. Must have been reading the Scrungy Pretend "Students" Little Red Book, or, UAF propaganda... Most interesting how UAF and their running dogs, turned out en masse this AM to protest outside the BBC studio because Andrew Marr was interviewing Marine Le Pen. As Marr explained (Credit to him), since Le Pen is a legitimate politician and now a significant force in French politics, then she is entitled to speak and he is obliged to listen. The bigots, in this case, of course, being the UAF and their running dogs, since their spavined perspective is that everyone is entitled to an opinion, all provided it is OUR opinion! Clearly, such ersatz students do not include the English language, etymology and comprehension in their syllabi... Bigot - Definition: "noun: bigot; plural noun: bigotsa person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions." It is NOT "Racism" to wish to so balance immigration, as to only welcome in, those with adequate and marketable essential skills, rather than simply blink and allow in hordes of benefit scroungers who not only make zero contribution to a nation state's socio-economic fabric; furthermore, as too many European states have now realised - rather too late - make endless demands upon the host society, refuse point blank to properly integrate and, rather, create ghettos leading to reverse racism. Research, as just one example, Tower Hamlets, a borough of London. Much of what many of you write is hugely patronising; as if you are far superior beings to the little guy simply trying to earn an honest living with personal dignity, feed his family and enjoy some modicum of peace and stability. Face some sobering and unpalatable facts: the Western professional political class have failed; all of them, repeatedly and shamefully. Yet, according to yourselves, the little guy isn't entitled to either an opinion or any personal objectives. Nope! He and she is suffering from some mental disease called "Populism"! Eventually, even the worm turns...........

[quote user="woolybanana"]Farage is trying so hard to get attention now that he has no place in UKIP. He will crash and burn soon enough.[/quote] Wooly: You obviously live in a warm cosy little cocoon of non-reality. Worth watching Farage here.  Cast aside, for one moment your obvious prejudice and ponder.......