Pads Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 déjeuner du matin ..... is this another way of saying le petit déjeuner ?alsosans me parler = without me to speak , does this mean: he didnt speak to me ? or he didnt say anything alsoJ'etais trop avance or tôt , si or ainsi je suis revneu ?Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I've never heard "le déjeuner du matin", but that does not mean the expression is not used...sans me parler = without speaking/talking/saying a word to mesans parler = without speaking/talking/saying a wordJ'étais en avance, alors/donc je suis revenu(e) plus tard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pads Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 Thanks clair , Le dejeuner du matin was the title of a poem so I guess it was poetic liecence......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 The sad one from Jacques Prévert?Déjeuner du matin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pads Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 Yes thats the one .... I like it[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 But it is so sad... [:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I've just sent it to a friend who is on the point of leaving her husband because he doesn't speak or look at her any longer. Very sad. [:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowoman Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Can any clever person translate this for me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Ah, I know that poem, we used it in our French lessons as an example of the passé composé. I wouldn't say I was clever, but I'd translate it as... He put the coffeeIn the cupHe put the milkIn the cup of coffeeHe put the sugarIn the white coffeeWith the little spoonHe stirredHe drank the white coffeeAnd he put down the cupWithout speaking to meHe lit a cigaretteHe blew ringsWith the smokeHe put the ashes In the ashtrayWithout speaking to meWithout looking at meHe got upHe put his hat on his headHe put on his raincoatBecause it was rainingAnd he leftIn the rainWithout a wordWithout looking at meAnd me, I putMy head in my handsAnd I cried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 BreakfastHe poured the coffee In the cup He put milk In the cup of coffee He put sugar In the café au lait With the small spoon He stirred He drank the café au lait And he put the cup down Without saying a word to me He lit A cigarette He drew circlesOf smoke He put the ashes In the ashtray Without saying a word to me Without looking at me He stood up He put on His hat on his head He put on His raincoat Because it was raining And he left In the rain Without a word Without looking at me And I lowered My head in my hands And I cried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowoman Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Thankyou so much .That is soooooo sad. He is obviously out of love and right up himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 It is a bit, isn't it, sniff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pads Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 [quote user="cowoman"]Thankyou so much .That is soooooo sad. He is obviously out of love and right up himself[/quote]or is he still in love and it hurt him to much to look at her , and she was crying because she knew what she was letting go but had no choice [;-)]theres always two sides to a love story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 How odd, I'd never thought of it as a love poem, just a terribly sad story of two people not speaking. Isn't the author a bloke though, so if it's a love story it's the man himself crying, and (probably, but never assume) the woman leaving without a word?Edit: nope, just re-read it and he is definately talking about another he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pads Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 Yes but:.......... hes an author he can write from the view of both sexes , but hey who says gay blokes dont fall out of love just like the rest of us. and go through the pain of seperation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 There are a lot of marriages where the bloke doesn't notice his missus, especially after 25 + years of being together. That's why a lot of women up sticks in their 50s - because they feel unloved. I reckon the poet is describing that feeling.I would translate the title as 'The Morning Meal' rather than 'Breakfast' because it gives the sense of yet another meal where she is ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Cathy, I swear the OH pays more attention to the dog than he does me. But, I am quite happy with that. No longer want to be noticed particularly! Sad? Maybe but, to be honest, I suis très contente! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pads Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 I love it when you get given half a story and its left to everyone to make up whats going on. We use to play a party game based on this it was so interesting to see how people picked up on different parts of the story.They could of had a 3 coarse meal and talked all the way through it trying to solve what ever the problem was and by coffee realised there was no more to say...... so he drank his coffee in thought full silence got up and left the woman who wronged him and walked away, while consumed in guilt she puts her head in her hands and crys at her stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 A 3 course breakfast would be something, Pads!Maybe the man was blind so couldn't look at her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pads Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 Ah you dont live in this house then a tipical breakfast here porridge/cereal, plate of fruit , toast and coffee.They could of just had bad hang overs, he was grumpy and she was emotional.Or maybe he wasnt a morning person and she was pre-menstral [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 [quote user="Pads"]she was pre-menstral [:D] [/quote]Or menopausal... [:D] [:D]And why did he need a hat? Was he a gendarme? We all know that gendarmes never smile and maybe he had a crime to solve and was busy thinking about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqui Too Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I have two theories:1. She's the mistress and he's going back to his wife [:-))]2. He's a soldier going off to war and he doesn't want to see her crying [:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 It must have been Inspecteur Maigret. [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Or a clown going off to the circus? They only smile to the crowds (or so they say). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWINKLE Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Maybe she's his mother!Or maybe he's her father[:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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