Hey guys you want to take a look at this site; www.moneysavingexpert.com and take a look at their forums (?) . Martin Lewis, the money saving expert, has from memory updated his website forum at least twice now this year and if you look carefully for the thread, you will see that this latest one is being very well received by its members. MSE hasn't got the backing that Archant has but he seems to please his membership. Just remember guys, you upset your audience and they will steer clear of your products and vote with their feet! Regards