Tag Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I refer to a strange comment by the poster in Finance, Class 2 NI Contributions ..... charges ahead for expats:................those who retrun to the UK from the EU and have to fill in forms to prove that they are eligible for Uk resdiency. This despite it being quite clearly stated on the IRS site that those of UK origin have an automatic right to re-entry. There are two cases I know of persoanlly where this has happened and, when the person concerned stated that they were born in the UK and held a UK passport they were told that did not count.It may be that if the residency idea is pushed to the limit as a way of saving money we may find that we do not have the right to re-enter the UK.Anyone come across this? Can't think it is right though I can see the bl**** bureaucrats having a field day with returning expats. Far as I am concerned the right of return is absolute if one was born in UK and holds a Brit passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Where did you get this quote from Taq? I certainly do know that just being british and having a passport one is still not treat quite the same already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riff-Raff Element Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I can't see how they could be denied residency. I can believe that theymight not satisfy the residency requirements to allow them full accessto a pension, but that would not be the same thing. If they had beenliving in the EU, surely they would have been making contributions inwhichever state they had been resident during their absence from the UKand a pension would forthcoming from there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tag Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hi Teamed up,I got it from Complete France... » Living in Franc... » Finance » Class 2 NI contributions....changes ahead for expats? Far as I know our rights are absolute. But one might have to declare assets when returning or even miss out on certain benefits as not having been working in the UK. I do worry however as I still remember Dennis Healey's comments about expats, despite the fact that we were remitting huge sums to the UK at the time. Also, I am not sure that a residency qualification is legal under European law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAN_S Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 As far as I am aware, if you are a British citizen then you have the right of abode in the UK, but if you are a British subject or another type of British national you may not.This is stated in para 2 of the notes in my passport. I can't see what has been paid to the state in the past can have any bearing on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 IanS,interestingly the french authorities will not take the word of a british passport about right of abode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 The following is taken from the Home Office website and so can be assumed to authoritative. It seems pretty clear to me http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind/en/home/applying/british_nationality/advice_about_nationality/bn1_-_british_citizenship.html? People who are closely connected with the United Kingdom (including the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man) and, in most cases, the British overseas territories ... are British citizens. British citizens have the right to live here permanently and are free to leave and re-enter the United Kingdom at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAN_S Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Why should they need to, unless it's to prove you are an EU citizen. So does this mean there are some British passport holders that are not classified as such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamedup Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 IanS, sometimes the french authorities believe they need to know this information and the british embassy will furnish, at a hefty price, exactly this info for the french authorities. Tis exactly the same info as is on the passport but a passport is not good enough for french officialdom. I do know this, we have been through this a couple of times now. I believe the reason for this is that the french authorities hold little regard for their own passports. What really counts for french citizens is their ID cards, and are expected to have them with them if they have to present themselves at their embassy when abroad.I once met the bloke who wrote the books about touring the world on a dollar a day. He told us all about how a french passport was considered by the french authorities and how he was treat when his ID card had expired during his absence from France. And knowing this, I wasn't really surprised that they had little regard for a british passport either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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