windowman Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I've hopefully sold my car & was wondering if there was anything specific I had to do apart from mark on the carte grise. I bought the car over here and don't remember any other forms being given to me, but a friend mentioned I had to send forms to the French eqivalent of the DVLA, and give forms to the new owner.Can anyone advise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 You need to complete a certificat de cession. Its a three part document - one copy to the buyer, one for yourself and the other to your prefecture. It's the equivalent of the DVLA change of keeper notification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassis Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Did you know you've made a contribution to Living France magazine, SD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Sunday - you are so knowledgeable, factual, precise. I've been reading your answers in various threads and not just on cars. You are amazing. Never leave this Forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windowman Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 So they were right. OK I'd better get that sorted for when they collect the car next week. Where would you obtain such an form?Thank-you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmobile Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 You can download the form off the internet. I can't remember the website address, but I'm sure Sunday Driver will know it. If he doesn't post it here within an hour or two I'll be surprised, but you will probably be able to find it by doing a search on the forum.It will help the buyer to get the car registered to them if you sell it with a CT less than 6 months old. In fact, it might put them completely off the sale if you haven't got this.Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 [url=http://www.prefecture-police-paris.interieur.gouv.fr/demarches/Formulaires/cerce.pdf]Certificat de cession[/url] for download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 What about the Certificat de non gage (now called the certificat de situation administrativenow I believe) with any car sold ? It must be a Cert de Non Gage less than a month old as well.http://www.interieur.gouv.fr/sections/a_votre_service/vos_demarches/vehicules/telecartegrise_particuliers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 When selling a French car, these are the following responsibilites:The seller:- Marking the carte grise as sold- Sending the certificat de cession to the prefecture.Either the seller or the buyer:- Obtaining a certificate de situation/non-gage- Obtaining a CT certificate not more than six months old.In practice, the seller would normally provide the non-gage and a new CT (if the old one is out of date) as part of the deal, but it's not obligatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Now for the way we actually do it, with regard to the regulations, which being in France etc....................We always sell a motor with a Cert de Non Gage for the very reason wewould not buy a car without one. A bit late too worry about problems withfinance etc once it is bought. Same as in the UK, we never boughtwithout an HPI check and always offered it on to the new buyer.We also always cut off the corner from the Carte grise as well.We buy cars without CT's or with short C.T's but of course tore-register, one will need a current CT and the rules state less than 6months old but................we have had several change hands withless than that !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windowman Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 SundayDriver thank-you for that. I def don't have finance on the car so is it REALLY req to get a Cert de Non Gage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 WindowmanYou know you haven't any finance on the car - and I believe you [;-)] - but the buyer doesn't know that. As Miki says, that's why it's so important to check before handing over any dosh.Getting one is no problem - you can apply on line [url=http://www.interieur.gouv.fr/rubriques/b/b8_teleservices/new_telecarte_grise]HERE[/url] and print out the certificate to give to your buyer. And unlike the UK HPI search, it's free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 [quote user="Miki"]Now for the way we actually do it, with regard to the regulations, which being in France etc....................We always sell a motor with a Cert de Non Gage for the very reason we would not buy a car without one. A bit late too worry about problems with finance etc once it is bought. Same as in the UK, we never bought without an HPI check and always offered it on to the new buyer.We also always cut off the corner from the Carte grise as well.We buy cars without CT's or with short C.T's but of course to re-register, one will need a current CT and the rules state less than 6 months old but................we have had several change hands with less than that !![/quote]Sorry but I'm not clear on this, are you saying that you can't register a car in your name if it has less than 18 months CT or am I missing something? I am selling a car with 6 months CT, won't the new owner be able to register it unless I get a new CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Under the regulations as they stand. To re-register a car, it must have a minimum of 18 months CT left to run.If not, either the seller will go and get a new CT, which is probablythe more normal thing to do, as the prospective new owner will thenknow a fair amount about the condition of the car. It can be sold withless but the price may need to be adjusted to tempt a new buyer ! Thenew buyer though, will need to get a new CT to enable him/her tore-register the car in their name.We have registered cars on occasion, on the off chance that it will gothrough with less than the regulatory 18 months CT remaining but Iwould never bank on this way of doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 I think the previous posting may have been misunderstood, i.e less than 6 months, meaning less than 6 months to run not 18 months remaining.I had understood that a car had to be sold with a minimum of 6 months controle technique to be registered by the new owner, if not it has to be sold "for spare parts only".There is nothing to stop the new owner doing the necessary repairs, getting a C.T and then registering it.Of course my mediocre French may mean that I misundersood and have posted rubbish (I am sure that I am not the first) so I wait to be corrected or confirmed by someone more knowledgable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 If you buy a car in France, you have to register it in your name in order to be able to drive it on the road. In order to register it, you have to produce a CT certificate that is no more than six months old, ie the certificate must be dated no more than six months previously.It doesn't matter who gets the CT done. Normally, the seller will advertise the car as "CT OK" ie certificate less than six months old.However, you can buy a car with an "old" CT or no CT at all, but then you can't register it (and therefore drive it) without getting a fresh CT done yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windowman Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 Just to say thank-you for the info - car sold and money in the bank, well spent now on my tax Fonciere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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