Andy and Sarah Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Over the summer we put up all the metal partitioning on the top floor to create 2 bedrooms and a bathroom. We have now started to add the plasterboard and are ready to fit the 3 doors. We found in Leroy Merlin and Castorama doors and frames complete - now the stupid question: The frames are 15cm longer than the doors (which they are not in England) - is this so one can can cut them to ensure a square and level fit, or should they be trimmed and sunk into floorboards. Alternatively are we better to purchase seperately?Thank you for any advice.Andy and Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Trim them to the height that you want remembering to allow for carrelage or carpet[+o(]You would normally build the frames into the metal stud wall system before fitting the plasterboard, they normally have a 50mm rebate which is designed for "cloisons alveolaires" but which will also fit nicely around R48 montants, if you use 10mm plasterboard you can then fit architraves flush to the frame and board, if you use BA13 the architraves will splay out a little but not noticably.If you use the cloisons or carreaux de plâtre for the partition walls no architrave is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 And whatever you do don't remove the struts that keep the door and frame together before fitting them - BIG mistake!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Anglia Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 [quote user="Rob Roy"]And whatever you do don't remove the struts that keep the door and frame together before fitting them - BIG mistake!![/quote]Not always an option: one of mine came with the strut right across the base, which was being trimmed[:(]Luckily, I had a spare from the other door, which I fitted ABOVE the trim line, then removed the one below.I actually enjoy fitting pre-hung French frames and doors. At least you can be certain that if you fit the frame vertical, the door will open and close properly, latch properly, and won't open or close of it's own accord without a door closer fitted[;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Yes, they are quite easy to fit aren't they. Brilliant idea having them 'all in one' and the same size as the metal framework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 And oh the joy of not having to rebate three sets of damned hinges per door!I was told by a builder that the 'horns' on the bottom of the frames serve the twin functions of protecting the bottom of the door (?) and allowing some means of setting the door and frame if they are going into a poured concrete floor.We came back to France to one house to find all our bedroom/bathroom doors standing in splendid isolation as the concrete dried, with them (for a wonder) all the right way round. The horns in the concrete were quite sufficient to keep them stable.We had great fun walking around notional rooms (a la News Editor, Les Nessman in WKRP Cincinatti) but through real doors.p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Thats a damn good idea! I will remember and try that in future as having fitted doors after the floor finish and at the time of fitting the rails and montants it does leave a weak spot at the bottom of each door frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy and Sarah Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 Thank you all for the advice - why is it everyone makes things sound so simple!!Just a little confused as to what the struts are - the doors are wrapped in plastic so we have never had a really good look at them - do they keep the frame together and are then removed once hung?Thanks again to you all. Andy and Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yes, exactly. They are just sort of battens that are stapled to the frame, keeping the door in place until the frame is properly fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 I'll just add as no-one's mentioned it that there are also plastic spacers between frame and door to ensure correct gap.Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Yep, there sure are and they are still on my workshop doors I fitted over a year ago. I always wondered what they were?? The double doors fit well though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 [quote user="Andy and Sarah"]Thank you all for the advice - why is it everyone makes things sound so simple!!Just a little confused as to what the struts are - the doors are wrapped in plastic so we have never had a really good look at them - do they keep the frame together and are then removed once hung?Thanks again to you all. Andy and Sarah[/quote]If you take the struts/strapings off you will quickly discover that the frame has little integrity of its own - the corner joints being very simple finger or m&t joints - and you will be holding (variously) a rectangle, a parallelagram, a rhomboid, and a pair of expensive clothes props!p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy and Sarah Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Thanks all again - down in 2 weeks so time will tell!!Andy and sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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