Tarrot Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I need to get hold of a box sinker set (I have to replace a lot of Danish sockets with correct French ones). What is the French for a box sinker and where can I get one?Fortunately, Danish sockets are smaller than French ones (much smaller). Any advice on whether this job is something that could be tackled by somebody with reasonable DIY skills? The wiring in a recently-purchased house is fine - it's just that the previous owner was Danish and the sockets do not meet French norms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 What's a box sinker? Do you mean a drill attachment for 65mm or 68mm electrical boxes?"Scie cloche" or "trepan".If the wiring has been done correctly the proper boxes should already be in place and you just need to change sockets; I've no idea what a Danish one looks like. If you need to change the boxes then it depends whether they are in solid walls (brick or stone, normally 65mm) or in plasterboard (placo, cloison seche, normally 68mm).Bricodepot used to do a "trepan" for 65mm holes but I can't see it on their site now. Leroy Merlin have a selection. I'dt be best to talk to them in the store and explain what you're doing.If you're going to try to enlarge an existing hole it's not easy! The attachment relies on a pilot drill to keep it centered and you won't be able to do that because of the existing hole. (I haven't explained that very well, but I can't improve on it!).Here's one for stone http://www.leroymerlin.fr/mpng2-front/pre?zone=zonecatalogue&idLSPub=1239270044&renderall=on#16Plasterboard are ones like this http://www.leroymerlin.fr/mpng2-front/pre?zone=zonecatalogue&idLSPub=1239270044&renderall=on#5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I wondered what they were as well.I have "moellons" in my walls.I might damage that final vibratory squaring off apparatus.Looks good for jerry built houses with "parpaings".http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSVjn0PF4x8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarrot Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Many thanks for the replies (this site is fantastically helpful). I found the name "box cutter" describing this task on an English website. Since French sockets are circular, not square, I was hoping there would be a neat tool for cutting a circular hole to take the new boxes. I can see the point about nowhere to put the locating drill. But Danish sockets are really small and they may not be very deep either, so I might be lucky on that score. I don't have access to the house at the moment, but it will certainly be a case of enlarging the existing holes. At least I can start looking for tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Sorry, the link didn't actually show the item I intended, here it is, shown with an SDS shank....[IMG]http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt200/nevjames/trepan.jpg[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Roy Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 My OH uses a hole saw for making holes in the plasterboard - similar to the picture above but with serated edge all the way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 RR, plasterboard isn't really a problem, any hole saw will do it. The "trepan" I posted will cut brick or stone as the teeth are tungsten tipped. [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 carbure de tungstène Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarrot Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 I am going to look at the house again tomorrow and will be able to assess whether it's a case of plasterboard or brick / stone. Again, many thanks for the helpful replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Of course Danish sockets are small.... have you seen the size of the country? [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert the InfoGipsy Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 If you need a pilot hole why not make up a wooden plug that you can push into each hole in turn? It would at least get you started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 [quote user="Tarrot"]I am going to look at the house again tomorrow and will be able to assess whether it's a case of plasterboard or brick / stone. Again, many thanks for the helpful replies.[/quote]Care to take a picture with something against it for scale while you're there? I, for one, am now quite keen to see these Toksvig-sized sockets ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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