Just got down to the south again ( 34 )no signal at all,when we left to go back to Devon in the end of July everything was working fine.Checked that the dish ( 80 mm mesh ) had not moved, cable,etc all ok,changed LNB,slight signal,changed to 80 mm solid dish,good signal, but not good quality,replaced cable also now good quality, box is an old grundig hope this may be of use to someone