Thanks again for the info. I guess I must be switched over to a digital or ADSL line with SFR. Plugging in any other phone be it analogue, voip or dect into the SFR line gives no tone at all. Sounds dead. But immediately I connect via the old AOL modem, voila communications are restored and both voip and the AOL Wi-Fi handsets work fine. Will be having another play with the new box shortly to see if there is any way to get the 'tel' light up before calling SFR. Thanks Ray.