NormanH Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 But giving away points to a friend or colleague is a regular event in my Café du Commerce; people even SELL points on the Internet ;;;over here anyway. As I no longer drive I have often been asked to oblige....though I don't and they don't insist.Perhaps people in France are more compréhensif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote user="woolybanana"]That is a pinch of strychnine[/quote]The breadmaker murderer got away with it. [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard51 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Papachapa, the evidence they gave was in court, under oath - unlike that given by the Huhnes which was on a NIP notice. It was also in connection with a particularly brutal murder and not a traffic offence.Mrs R51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote user="AnOther"]Journey impossible:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063734/The-great-Chris-Huhne-road-test-The-Mail-Sunday-sets-solve-energy-secretarys-wife-REALLY-driving.html[/quote]Do you think so? bearing in mind speeding if she left earlier, not so impossible. The flight lands at 10.23 out of Stansted airport 10.53 easily that's 30mins to the speed camera. At that time of night I have got from Stansted to Lewisham in 45mins and that's using the A12 with all of those 50/40 mph cameras.Does resigning when innocent show guilt? I wouldn't resign if I were innocent. I wouldn't leave a job over an alleged speeding ticket or perverting the course of justice. There are so many cameras which film cars on the roads it would be pretty obvious who was driving even if the pictures were low res, one's a silver fox the other dark haired. Maybe they have waited this long so they can loose the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Lets call it journey improbable instead then shall we [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britgirl Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 As Pierre Ambroise Francois Choderios de LaClos (1741-1803). said it in his 1782 book Les Liasons Dangereuses: "La vengeance est un plat qui se mange froid."Revenge is a dessert best served cold.[kiss][kiss] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondie Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I think he had it coming , not just for the speeding , and now it has. Que sera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard51 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Well his wife wasn't very bright ;) Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!Mrs R51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 He may have had it coming, but I wonder if she realises that now so will she? not just for perverting the cause of justice, but for anyone who has ever had or might in the future have any dealings with her surely will be asking themselves could she be trusted not to renege on an agreement . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondie Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote user="Richard51"]Well his wife wasn't very bright ;) Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!Mrs R51[/quote]True !! but she wasn't the only one with a vested interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraytonBoy Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 He'd better be found guilty otherwise the police time etc in pursuing him would have been totally wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I can't be the only one, surely, who doesn't have any interest in the antics of that muppet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I'm not interested in this man specifically, but I am interested in justice of some sort being applied to all levels of society, including politicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 It appears that by " standing down" from his position to fight his case . he gets to claim "severance " pay ................... £17.000 or so of tax payers cash should help him pay for his trial for a couple of days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 This is an interesting article written by Stephen Glover, journalist, who edited the Oxford University magazine with Chris Huhne.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096197/Chris-Huhnes-downfall-began-day-sacrificed-wife-career.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote user="Frederick"]It appears that by " standing down" from his position to fight his case . he gets to claim "severance " pay ................... £17.000 or so of tax payers cash should help him pay for his trial for a couple of days .[/quote]**$$!!*&&""** if that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 When I left school, many years ago, I firmly held the belief that 'British Politicians' were the noblest of them all and all the others in the world were corrupt and dishonest (indoctrination at its best ?)Now I'm old, of course, those views have changed completely.I have long had a plan to put it right though.All politicians when elected should have a small, remotely-activated, explosive charge surgically implanted up their bottoms.The population would all be issued with 'little red buttons' which they could press 'en masse' whenever lies, corruption etc, came to the fore. A ratio would have to be calculated, and agreed, but probably 60% would be ideal.So if 60% of the nation pressed at exactly the same time........................................... boom [:D][:D]Just think of the benefits, especially if the said politicians wore an 'activity monitor' that gave a constant readout of the current ratio being furiously pressed.Bugsy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I think a cattle prod under their seat in the HOC linked back to all the homes in their constituency wouldn't be a bad idea. The more annoyed the people become the higher the charge. The only problem I can see with your and my idea is they would either be dead within 24 hours or never enter the HOC again.Perhaps a better idea should be a change in the law that allows constituents to sack their MP and in doing so throw him/her out of the HOC as well. Perhaps this would focus MP's more to their constituents wants, needs and aspirations although sadly probably not.I also think that the rules for MP's should be condensed, more simple and legally binding. Any MP breaking them should be thrown out. If they break the law for example and are tried and found guilty they should loose their seat. That goes for the HOL as well. Fiddling their expenses should also mean they get thrown out of both houses and loose their knighthood if they are in the HOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thibault Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote user="Quillan"]Perhaps a better idea should be a change in the law that allows constituents to sack their MP and in doing so throw him/her out of the HOC as well. Perhaps this would focus MP's more to their constituents wants, needs and aspirations although sadly probably not.I [/quote] How would this work? A simple majority, two thirds of constituents? What happens if a particular constituency had "unreasonable" wants in relation to the country as a whole? Wasn't there an argument in the 19th century as to whether MPs were delegates or representatives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote user="Bugsy"]All politicians when elected should have a small, remotely-activated, explosive charge surgically implanted up their bottoms.Bugsy .[/quote]In the case of Mandelson and probably a lot more (public school and all that) they would only get more pleasure from that sort of play, back to the drawing board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote user="Théière"][quote user="Bugsy"]All politicians when elected should have a small, remotely-activated, explosive charge surgically implanted up their bottoms.Bugsy .[/quote]In the case of Mandelson and probably a lot more (public school and all that) they would only get more pleasure from that sort of play, back to the drawing board![/quote]I was thinking in terms of half a pound of C4 [:D][:D]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 [quote user="Thibault"][quote user="Quillan"] Perhaps a better idea should be a change in the law that allows constituents to sack their MP and in doing so throw him/her out of the HOC as well. Perhaps this would focus MP's more to their constituents wants, needs and aspirations although sadly probably not.I [/quote] How would this work? A simple majority, two thirds of constituents? What happens if a particular constituency had "unreasonable" wants in relation to the country as a whole? Wasn't there an argument in the 19th century as to whether MPs were delegates or representatives? [/quote]There still is a debate going on and an e-petition to change from representative to delegate and a private members bill will be before parliament after their summer break. Sadly it won't get through so MP's can carry on doing what they have always done.If they became delegates they would have to vote the way their constituents want them to vote. If a constituency wanted something unreasonable they might not get it as it would need a full parliamentary vote and if other MP's constituents disagree they won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaud Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Solon, when he invented/codified Athenian democracy also instituted Ostrasism, whereby all voters could scratch on a shard of pottery, the name of the person they most would like to exile for ten years. The shards were counted-up and the loser had to pack his bags.The idea was that demagogs were kept in check. How about us having regular ostrasisms? Hang on, Fred the Shred is already in exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Wouldn't work, Renaud. They'd just move to some tax haven. I don't personally know anyone who's done that but I think moving to these places are like those near-death experiences; that is, nobody comes back to tell you what it's like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to device; Vicky-Pryce-guilty-perverting-course-justice-taking-ex-husband-Chris-Huhnes-speeding-points this story was always about bitterness and revenge and now it has come tumbling down on their heads; Huhne, Pryce, Constance Briscoe, now under Police investigation and of course by no means least the Lib Dems, including Vince Cable and the Lib Dem peer Lord Oakeshott . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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