just john Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Last year I was advised that internal gas bottles were not permitted for fixed hobs in renovated properties, so resolved to replace the hob and cast around. I ignored an offer in Lidl or Aldi for a twin plate induction hob while I shopped around, and now wish I'd got one. I don't want a 4 plate and haven't found a twin plate in the UK especially not at the price seen last year, has anyone seen twin plate induction hobs on offer anywhere in France, and if so which store? Any thoughts on induction hobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I wish we had an induction hob, but it wasn't available on the cooker we wanted....looked great when we saw a demo, although having to replace a significant number of saucepans might have been a pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy67 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Hell yeah, I have an induction hob at home and love it so much I have bought a ceramic hob to put in it's place when we move. No way an I leaving my baby behind, it's bloody awesome. Boils water in no time, heat's the pan not the room and so controllable. I will never go back. Most new pans now are induction suitable, aluminium won't work induction, you need to have stainless with iron or steel core implanted into the base. I do however, have a 4 ring halogen hob in Aubeterre that is quite good, it will be getting removed if you want it John, it all works but it's not as quick as induction. You will find out, I am quite a keen cook and spend all day in the kitchen given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confused of chalus Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 My daughter has just got an induction hob and it is brilliant. Quick as gas, supposed to be very fuel efficient and goes cool very quickly once switched off. We bought one in Ikea for the new kitchen. (£299) but cant see it being installed this year! Slow simmering cooking might be a bit of a problem as it seemed to turn itself off, but we were just getting used to it over Christmas and she had lost the operating instructions. While looking for one we saw quite a few 2 ring versions - cant lay my hands on information at the moment but try internet. I know new pans might be an issue, but was surprised to find wok and le creuset both worked well. Just needed a new frying pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy67 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Sorry forgot. Ebay has 2 ring induction hobs from Germany for ir £115-£130. Just search for induction hob. We have a big very cheap appliance shop on our door step, find the one you want and I could see if they have it, collect it and bring it with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 We have an ancient ceramic hob in UK, and a wonderful induction hob in France. It's marvellous, and just as controllable as gas. This one has no knobs etc, which is fine if I'm wearing my specs, but hard to see the tiny markings I have to press otherwise. When we re-do the UK kitchen (running over 2 years late at the moment!) we'll definitely have n induction there. It's all supposed to be happening in the summer, but we've lowered our sights from a John Lewis one to maybe one from Ikea. Where did the money go?! [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote user="crossy67"] Most new pans now are induction suitable, aluminium won't work induction, you need to have stainless with iron or steel core implanted into the base. I have a 4 ring halogen hob in Aubeterre that is quite good, it will be getting removed if you want it John, it all works but it's not as quick as induction. You will find out, I am quite a keen cook and spend all day in the kitchen given the chance. [/quote]Thanks for the offer, but having rethought the kitchen and fitted new wooden worktops I don't want to cut in a 4 ring anything. Having been collecting le Creuset, Doufeu, Gino D'Acampo (Morrisons) for using on the wood stove when it's going I have a few pots already. With oven, microwave, steamer, and detailed analysis of pan usage I'm convinced you only need two ring, so more worktop space! I'm really just a weekend cook, into menu cooking, though the sous chef says I'm more of a slave driver[:P][quote user="crossy67"] Sorry forgot. Ebay has 2 ring induction hobs from Germany for ir £115-£130. Just search for induction hob. We have a big very cheap appliance shop on our door step, find the one you want and I could see if they have it, collect it and bring it with us. [/quote] I've seen these but they are twice the price I saw in Riberac Lidl, (£29 recent lidl single ring) so I could kick myself, more to the point I'd like a receipt from a shop I can take it back it to since I've been warned that they can be prone to failure which is too expensive to repair? Does your cheap shop do 2 ring induction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just a small point for anyone contemplating the purchase of an induction hob. To get the same almost instantaneous response as gas, make sure each ring has it's own temperature control. If you first have to select which ring you want to control and then having to use the temperature knob you will be defeating the object of having induction. This may seem a very minor point but it will make a big difference to your induction experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 And make sure that the temperature control has a lot of "choices" or ranges. We bought a single induction hob to replace the electric one which went fut (two ring not then available), and the worst thing I can say is that it only has 4 power levels which is not enough, things either boil away or don't cook quickly enough. Variable settings or as many settings as you can get would avoid that.It does heat so quickly it is impressive. We are going to change the gas bottle hob for an induction, when we can find one that fits the hole the gas hob will leave when removed. I always swore by gas, until I got an induction hob.Cast iron pans, (some) stainless steel (I have two that don't but they were cheap ones) etc work well, aluminium - not. Never mind, I can get rid of all the many and various pans I've acquired over the years and treat myself to a new set..... nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I've only experience of our induction hob, so I suppose I thought they're all alike. Our 4 'rings' have 17 settings each, plus a booster for boiling, which isn't needed, as setting 9 boils rapidly enough, and makes me think a fighter jet is approaching! I'll be sure to look for something similar for the other kitchen - but maybe minus the fighter jet! [:)]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericd Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Interesting reading. I have always been a "Gas is better" man but could be persuaded. What is the power consumption of a 4 ring induction beast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phylisbide Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 As an aside, could someone advise regarding the regs on internal gas bottles in renovated properties - I had not heard that they are not permitted. Advice please. Phylis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The Bosch is between 1.4 and 2.4kW per 'ring', with boosts on each if wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote user="phylisbide"]As an aside, could someone advise regarding the regs on internal gas bottles in renovated properties - I had not heard that they are not permitted. Advice please. Phylis[/quote]My plombiere advised that they are not permitted in fixed hobs (I'd asked him to connect) and should be a permanent external installation with fixed regulation pipework incorporating automatic cut off valves, he said he wasn't interested in this work just passing on friendly advice, and check with my Insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericd Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote user="gardengirl "]The Bosch is between 1.4 and 2.4kW per 'ring', with boosts on each if wanted.[/quote] [blink] That's nearly as much as a full phase for me !!! Better be powered directly from your local Centrale Nucleaire ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just as well I use my Remoska a lot then! [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericd Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just checked this website http://www.totalgaz.fr/particuliers/questions-reponses/bouteilles or this one http://www.cfbp.fr/?p_idref=812Amongst other info, Propane bottles must be kept outside whilst Butanemust be stored inside (with adequate ventilation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy67 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The 2.4k is only at full power, when you turn them down they pulse on and off for very short bursts (well ours does). They only heat the pan, not the room making them very efficient and your kitchen more comfortable. Getting the food up to temp with zero direct energy waste makes them by far the most efficient. As for controllable, I was a gas man and would have only ever considered a halogen to come close. We have a halogen hob in Aubeterre and found it so slow compared to induction, they also turn down instantly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote user="just john "][quote user="phylisbide"]As an aside, could someone advise regarding the regs on internal gas bottles in renovated properties - I had not heard that they are not permitted. Advice please. Phylis[/quote]My plombiere advised that they are not permitted in fixed hobs [/quote]That's another reason I'm getting rid of the gas hob - fixed hob with inside gas bottle (I've not looked to see if it is a flexible pipe or not but suspect it is) pleases me not one jot.As for the later discussion on power ratings, I think you will find it heats so quickly that there is no huge usage of power. Turns off (and on) instantaneously and even my poor little hob heats a pan of cold water in about a minute. My biggest problem with an induction hob is slow simmering .... I find it doesn't keep the simmering up, rather it boils, then stops, over and over again. So I don't use it for that - I just use my slow cooker instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 For those interested, found a triple plate Induction hob at Carrefour, Soyaux on offer at €249, we didn't buy because I've just found a Twin Hob available in the UK on ebay, for the princely sum of £75 + 10.75 p&p, with ovens, microwave, steamers (and mini Godin[8-|]) I really don't need any more than two hotplates, so far our ancient old leccy meter has never tripped with power tools, hot water, Fridge/Freezer, oven, washing machine etc on, so fingers crossed this will satisfy requirement for browning, soups, and stir-frys! Zaxx-Twin-Induction-Hob usual disclaimers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I have a Bosch induction hob bought second hand from E_bay ad its the best thing since sliced bread, in conjunction with cast iron cookware like Le Creuset, Cousances etc which I find cheaply at rederies, it is far superior to gas.I bought 2 of the Aldi 2 ring ones for €70 each IIRC for the first of my flats, I have tested them and they are perhaps even better than the Bosch, the controls are graduated by temperature and when I tested them if you set it for say 80 degrees centigrade the pan when checked with an infra red pyrometer was at exactkty that temperature.I wish now that I had bought 5 more but am hoping the promo will come around again.I am also a complete fan of halogen table top ovens, since getting mine 18 months ago the main oven has not been used and I am serching for some pan draws to match my existing units to replace it.I recently bought 6 of these for only £9.99 + VAT each with free delivery from Makro on line (you dont need to be a Makro card holder) a third of the price of the E-bay sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 We have the Aldi Quigg table-top induction, both the single and double ring models. I think they are made in Germany. Absolutely lovely to use! I can simmer gently using the lowest setting and can boil a pot of water for pasta within 5 minutes on a high setting. I think these are not high energy users, as I can plug into a normal plug point. For the built in one, we have a special induction plug-point. I think our electrician said that we needed a three-phase supply for the built in model, but were ok with single phase for the table top induction stoves. I would like something for quick stir-frying, but I think the wok induction stoves are very expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just john Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 [quote user="sunny"] I think our electrician said that we needed a three-phase supply for the built in model![/quote]What the . . . . ?[quote user="sunny"] I would like something for quick stir-frying, but I think the wok induction stoves are very expensive![/quote]I'm assuming that just plonking a cast iron Wok on the Induction Hob would work, does it not? amazon./Cast-Iron-Wok- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Just John, Well yes, you can use a regular induction hob, but you won't get heat on the sides, for a proper stir-fry. The induction wok hobs are dimpled, so the wok can sit snugly in and get heat on the bottom and sides, like this one: http://www.johnlewis.com/230504924/Product.aspx I have used my induction for stir-frying with a flat bottom pan, but prefer using gas and a real wok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 And for any other batchelors out there ,you can heat a tin of baked beans (well haricots blancs à la sauce tomates) directly on an induction hob [:-))] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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