legal requirements for moving? please help

[beani]

I think that some where, this will have been asked before, but I can not find anything,

We are moving to france in march, and i have spent hours and hours searching the internet to try to find what we need to do.

Is there not just a simple list some where, i.e. which paper work we need, who we have to notify, what papers are needed or need to be translated, how and when we need to do these things, insurances, costs, this applies to the UK and France.

I am so confused, we have a six year old as well, and it is becoming very scary, instead of the future we hoped for I am becoming very worried.

Can any one please help,

Many thanks,

Bev

[Penny29]

Hi,

Try the following thread:

 

http://www.livingfrance.com/instantforum/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=28&MessageID=1907

It's not ideal as there is a posting missing from it, a posting which must have lost it's home when the Forum was re-jigged - which is very anoying as the missing posting was the one which contained about 20 links the threads which would cover your question.

 

Penny

 

 

 

 

[Peabody]

Penny,found your post by using search on your user name over last 90days.

Unfortunately... links don't work but maybe could be recovered by Forum admin.

 

Okay, You are dead lucky I am sitting here with a bad back and an ear infection (can't do much and can't hear the TV) so I had the time to trawl through and find some links for you. You can send me my halo and wings when you arrive. All the following links are useful although some don't specifically match your request but all cover the period just before you move and the period of settling in. It was fun looking actually, and reading posts from "old hands" on the forum when they were just setting out (Coco in a panic, Iceni wit last minute nerves........). Here they are in no particular order: http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=883&forum=DCForumID28&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1039&forum=DCForumID28&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1065&forum=DCForumID28&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1315&forum=DCForumID28&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1800&forum=DCForumID3&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1870&forum=DCForumID3&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2421&forum=DCForumID3&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2533&forum=DCForumID3&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2623&forum=DCForumID3&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2669&forum=DCForumID3&archive=yes http://www.livingfrance.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2726&forum=DCForumID3&archive=yes Penny Penny (Dept 24)

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[Nick Trollope]

But surely those posts are on the old LF forum & won't work (I can't get them to).

Once again, I'd appeal to FA to reinstate the old forum as R/O, just for the benefit of the likes of this original poster.

[Patf]

If you aren't moving until March you have plenty of time to make lists and the various arrangements. Are you keeping your house in uk? Will you have work arranged in France? Some of the things to do are the same as if you were moving within uk. If you can't get enough info from the references given - ie lost in the change to the new format -  let us know and people will compile a new list between us. Pat

[beani]

May I say, many thanks to Penny, as above message, but all the links shown only lead to  pages that are not available.

People are being so help full,  it is really refreshing.

If any one else has any ideas, I look forward to seeing them, Many thanks, Bev

[Catalpa]

I printed out a lot of the bullet-point info as we were moving earlier in the summer and I am sure I have it somewhere. I'll look and type it out - adding anything we did that was different or not included. Probably tomorrow.

Carole

[Catalpa]

As promised, here is some of the info I kept which I'd cut and pasted into a Word document - and I think I've attributed the posts to the right people. Apologies if I have not. I should emphasise that I did not keep every post in the original thread (started on 30 Oct 2003) and I may even have edited some posts at the time to remove info which I didn't need. So it is not a complete replication. But the info was very useful. The links in mpprh's post below should work... because they're not livingfrance.

mpprh (737 posts)

6. "RE: I'm moving, what do i do now"

Hi I think you are asking for a checklist ?I haven't seen one published, but I'll have a go at the stuff you need to do once in France. Carte de Sejour (birth certificate, passport, proof of income, proof of address etc.)

Livret de Famille (birth certificate, passport, proof of income, proof of address, wedding certificate, etc.)

Assedic

ANPE

Social security

Mutualite

Register with tax man

Property lease or buyProperty insurance

Wills

Buy car

Register car

Driving license

Car insurance

Telephone

Water

Gas

V license

Electricity

Satellite TV

Internet connection I'm sure I've missed some out ! There are more for starting a business, marriage, children, schools etc. The problem is to decide the order you sort out each item.

You can buy a house without a Carte de Sejour. You can't easily be an employee without a Carte de Sejour. But you may need that proof of income to get a Carte de Sejour, etc. Different prefectures and mairies may have slightly different requirements. Somehow it all gets done. Here are some useful links I've put together :

http://tlp.netfirms.com/expat/link5.htm

http://tlp.netfirms.com/expat/link2.htm

http://tlp.netfirms.com/expat/link17.htm

http://tlp.netfirms.com/expat/link14.htm

http://tlp.netfirms.com/expat/link9.htm

http://expatfoyer.aimoo.com

Use forums for specific points. Bonne chance

Peter The Languedoc Page : http://tlp.netfirms.com

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Val_2 (1118 posts) 29-Oct-03, 07:35 AM (BST)

1. "RE: I'm moving, what do i do now"

As regards the UK you should let the tax and DSS people know so they can change their records for when the french side need to contact them.If you have children, then the child benefit people need to be informed and they will stop the payments from the date you leave so you can get the french side to take you on,plus if they are school-age you need to sort out schooling in France too and jabs if they are required by the education people in that dept. You would need to let your bank know, council tax office so they don't bill you for another year etc,insurance companies if you are continuing with endowments,life assurance etc, - the list is endless. Best to write down everything in your current life that you are paying out for and also let your solicitor know if you have an english will. France can be dealt with as you meet each criteria along the way. As for getting translations of paperwork, don't worry too much about that as each dept has it's own rules and there is always someone who does translation work about. I suggest you look through the archives on this forum and glean as much info as you can because by the sound of it, you really have no idea of what you are getting into by moving to another country.

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goatlady (310 posts) 30-Oct-03, 07:25 AM (BST)

5. "RE: I'm moving, what do i do now"

>LAST EDITED ON 29-Oct-03 >AT 11:40 PM (GMT) >>>by the sound of it, you >>really have no idea of >>what you are getting into >>by moving to another country. < snip > >to time to learn and >with so much info on >this site in many threads >I just wanted to try >and get them all together. >>>Cheers

By asking the question on here, I would say that you ARE trying to get prepared for the new life! Good luck to you, handle each hurdle as it comes, theres no big mystery to it and you dont need to have a portfolio of 'things to do' either. My first tips however would be

1 meet the mairie who will already know your there anyway. If you make friends with him/her you can always ask advice before committing yourself to anything!

2 say bonjour to everyone but dont listen to everything the locals tell you!

3 inform the EDF, water and telephone with meter readings at the time you arrived, who you are and what date you moved as sometimes you can end up paying the previous owners debts!

4 if you have kids get the info on school enrolments and meet the teachers asap

5 Make friends with the postman/woman they know everyone, but equally be careful not to upset same as the postie spreads goss like wildfire !!

ENJOY the adventure YOU HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THING!

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PatF (362 posts)

3. "RE: I'm moving, what do i do now"

Don't forget to arrange to have your post forwarded.There are bound to be people who don't know your new address. You get a form from the Post Office and it costs ?? can't remember - it's either £32 or £64 for a year. Pat.

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Note from me: it's £66.40 - or was in June.

Hope this is useful. Not covered in the above is how to bring pets with you. There is info in the pet forum but I can tell you what we did in June re our two dogs if it's of relevance to you. We also imported shotguns - again, if you want info on this, let me know. Otherwise, I don't think we've done anything yet which isn't covered by the above.

Carole

[Patf]

2heads - your list is very comprehensive. One thing you've not mentioned is opening a bank account in France. Perhaps Beani has already done this.  You need passports for this and I think we took in some statements from our english account. Pat.