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Hello,

I have tried searching on this topic but haven't found anything...

Does anyone have any advice/suggestions/warnings about the removal of lead paint from woodwork?

The house that we have bought has got lead paint seemingly everywhere but we have no experience of removing it.  Is it something one can safely do oneself, or do people recommend getting in a specialist to sort it out? (and if the latter, is this costly?)

Thanks,

Alistair 

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Try and do it outside, wear a good mask and sand it down. If your sanding inside, keep the mask on when sweeping up.

Not sure about burning it off, presumably the fumes would be less than healthy.

Our agent told us it would be ok to paint over the lead paint with a modern paint, which we have done and sent the forms back to the 'lead dept'.

We've not heard anything since so it seems ok, and our madness hasn't got any worse !

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[quote]Try and do it outside, wear a good mask and sand it down. If your sanding inside, keep the mask on when sweeping up. Not sure about burning it off, presumably the fumes would be less than healthy. O...[/quote]

I don't think that sanding lead paint is recommended. The "normal" method is chemical strip, or where the paint is sound, overpainting. However, FWIW, I reckon that, like NVCJD, the damage is already done to us adults. The affect of lead is accumulative and is reputed to dull the intelligence, I gather - much more significant in kids. Personally, I think that it is just more nannystateism. Einstien's house was probably painted with lead-based paint.
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If the paint is in reasonable condition then just consider painting it over after cleaning with sugar soap or similar. This will seal the lead paint in and be safe for children as long as they don't start seriously scratching paintwork.

Agree that sanding would spread paint dust the most and is also a seriously tedious means of achieving 100% removal.

Has anyone tried wet sanding of paintwork? I assume this would create very little airbourn dust.

Graham

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I googled 'removing lead paint' and there is a huge amount of info, mostly USA. Try

http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/lead/leadbroc.htm

This document seems to say that only children of 1 or 2 years need to be tested if exposed, unless doctors think otherwise, and that heat stripping below 1100 degrees Fahrenheit, about 600 degrees C is OK. All taken at face value, as I don't have any direct knowledge of this.
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[quote]I googled 'removing lead paint' and there is a huge amount of info, mostly USA. Tryhttp://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/lead/leadbroc.htmThis document seems to say that only children of 1 or 2 years n...[/quote]

Ah yes! Americans. IIRC, ALL lead paint below 4' from the floor must be removed as it is defined as "mouthable". ie. the little darlings may take to chewing the skirting .... sorry, base... boards.

Gawd bless America! (Noone else will....)

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The Health and Safety Executive has a useful little leaflet.  It's aimed at workplaces but applies anywhere:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg305.pdf

One particular problem with regard to children is those with 'pica' ie a tendency to eat non food objects.  You don't need to eat many flakes of lead paint to cause serious problems.  In any school you could guarantee more than one of the little darlings would put some in their mouth, if they found it lying around when it was being stripped. And surely everyone remembers someone in their class who picked away at the paint on the radiators and put it in their mouth.  Several cases of lead poisoning have resulted from this source. Hence the stringent controls.

If hot stripping, a hot air gun is safer because it operates at a lower temperature (below 500C).  Blow torches can lead to high levels in the air.  Of course, the controls you need it will depend on how much you are doing and who could be exposed.

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Hello,

Thanks for all your advice.

We have noticed in our draft acte de vente that the vendor has to report the fact that there is lead paint in the property to the relevant official (the mairie?) but once the acte de vente has been signed and the property is ours, is there anything that we actively have to do in respect of the lead paint, or will somebody official get in touch with us in the future to discuss it?

Thanks,

Alistair Lockhart

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Nick wrote: - The affect of lead is accumulative and is reputed to dull the intelligence...

I reckon I must have chewed through a couple of cots worth when I was a kid. Or maybe it's the scotch wot dunit.

 

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[quote]Hello, Thanks for all your advice. We have noticed in our draft acte de vente that the vendor has to report the fact that there is lead paint in the property to the relevant official (the mairie?) b...[/quote]

In our case, a letter arrived from the Direction Departmentale Des Affaires Sanitaires et Sociales about 6 months after buying the place.

It included a form to fill in, as we are struggling to come to terms with conversational French let alone techy French we trotted down to the Immobilier who asked us the questions and filled the form in for us. He even posted it, top man !

If I remember rightly it asked us what we had done about the lead paint and when.

We've not heard anything since so hopefully we have dun right.

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