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[quote user="Chancer"]That was the first reasoned justification I have seen for applying for a C.D.S. and makes complete sense.[/quote]Hardly typical of the average Brits situation though !Re possible onward movement this is taken from Cathay Tours link:Q: It is not fair that UK nationals will be land locked in the EU countrywhere they resided on the date of the UK's withdrawal as the JointReport does not include the right to intra-EU mobility after Brexit.A: It is fair to say that UK citizens are unlikely to be “landlocked”, although the extent to whichthey will be able to work, establish a business, study, claim benefits or get health care outsidetheir host state has yet to be decided.It's the final item on the Dec. joint report and yet to be discussed as it's outside the scope of the phase 1 negotiations, I can imagine the solution being it left to individual countries to determine for themselves.
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[quote user="Lehaut"]A different view on male sterilisation. Vasectomy being illegal in France until 1999 where it was considered mutilation and banned under the “Code Napoleon.” Even now, any man who wants to get a vasectomy has to wait 4 months after his initial counselling session before the doctor can perform the procedure. Seems like a long time? I think it might be the longest official wait time in the world.[/quote]Maybe to prevent premature emasculation [blink]
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Received notifiction today that our CdS's are available for collection, five weeks to the day and over Christmas.[quote user="EuroTrash"]Six of one and half a dozen of the other[/quote]Is there any tangible advantage, none of us can know or can say, but it's for absolute certain that save a bit of photocopying and half an hour of our time there is no disadvantage so I'll call it seven of one and five of the other [:)]
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As the saying goes; if you have to ask then you probably can't be told [:P]
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[quote user="alittlebitfrench"]smash it against a wall or something.[/quote]Yep, that'll do it, best advice for any crapple wotsit [:P]Just tried several of the 'popular' press sites in Firefox on my 5 year old Nexus 7 and all opened up in under 5 seconds.New sites to it BTW so no cached data to speed things up.Be more specific then, which sites ?
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Get it right and you'll be rewarded with something like this, actually toad in the hole but same mixture and cooking procedure.[img]https://i.imgur.com/NA2Juhe.jpg[/img]
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Never mind 490m, why should it cost even 490k just to change the colour and edit a few bits of text?As Wooly says though it's barely a flea bite in the scheme of things and very quickly and easily recouped by hike in the fee, something else puffed up 'proud' holders can cogitate on as they while away the long hours at immigration.
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Two out of the three delivery problems I've had have been with DPD but only when ordering from Germany.Twice the items got to a clearing depot in France (forget the place) but then got flagged for an alleged 'non existent' French address. Both ended up sent back to the suppliers and dispatched a second time but with confirmation from me that my address was 100% correct as given but exactly the same thing happened a second time, 'non existent' address.Both times I cancelled the orders and got a refund.The really stupid thing is if you put the name of my property into Google maps (2 simple 5 letter words which you can even type together as one) followed by just the first 3 digits of the postcode, it lands on my doorstep !Same goes for Here maps and both Garmin and TomTom sat navs, go figure !Third instance was a FedEx delivery. For an sudden and unavoidable reason I had to briefly leave the house but unfortunately my neighbour who normally takes in deliveries if necessary was away so I had to chance it.Of course the driver did turn up in the half hour or so I was away but since he'd left a card saying he would try again the next day I shrugged it off. Needless to say perhaps he never showed so now I was left in the dark as to when, or even if, another delivery would be scheduled so I started making phone calls.I finally tracked my package down to a communial clearing house in the nearby town but was told that the next scheduled delivery to my are wasn't for another 3 or 4 days although I could collect it from there at any time so armed with the address (I knew where it was) off I went.Well could I find the damn place, NO !I found the street alright, as I said I knew where that was, but despite driving it's length probably half a dozen times I could see nothing remotely resembling a FedEx depot nor a courier depot of any sort and I'd neglected to take the telephone number so couldn't phone them.I was almost resigned to going nome to get the number when by sheer chance in the mirror I spotted a small FedEx van emerging from an alley between 2 buildings so I drove to the place and noted that one building was unoccupied and had a 'for rent' sign on it and the other had a big sign blazoned across the front proclaiming it as a depot for one of the local vineyards, not so much as hint of being anything else but of course when I drove down the alley there were the FedEx vans and the office !About France in general; I think when you reach the point where the balance between things which please you and those which displease or annoy swings to the latter it's time to move on and for us that's where we are - hence the house being on the market - and when sold we'll rent until the madness of Brexit is settled.Ideally we've decided we want to relocate to Spain but making such a move before Brexit is over is too much of leap into the unknown so we're pretty much stuck with staying in France until then but at least we'll be liquid when the time does come and when the uncertainties are finally over.
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This is the crossing, a fairly major road and visibility of the rail track not too good.https://goo.gl/maps/QwYcVP4xgCsIn the absence of flashing lights to warn of an oncoming train I defy any driver to feel the need to exercise one iota of extra caution when driving across it so it's grossly unfair to say that a school bus driver might be at fault for not doing so either.
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Or what they think they saw !Until some hard and indisputable facts begin to emerge though I fail to see the point of even discussing the incident because all it can amount to is gossip and wild speculation.
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[quote user="EuroTrash"]If average processing time is 1 hour per application (I imagine it would be a lot more if you add in all the queries that are bound to arise)[/quote]We were processed together but individually in the space of our allocated 30 minute slot and that was with us deciding on what documentation to take, there was no guidance from the Prefecture.I imagine as applications gathered in volume though they would oil the wheels by publishing a definitive list of requirements and repeat it when appointments were made which should result in minimal queries or aborted applications.
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[quote user="Cathar Tours"]All that's needed now is for approval in the UK parliament and by the EU27 next week.[/quote]Not so fast with the bubbly !Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed and all this means is that talks on a trade deal can proceed.
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It's beyond any rational argument that in it's current form the NHS is unsustainable and until the politicians and the public collectively grasp that nettle it cannot but continue its decline. Rants about the Tories may relieve the spleen but serve no other purpose as it's an issue governments of all complexions have consistently swept under the carpet.It's no coincidence that the French system is consistently ranked as the best in the world and I think it's true to say that while the UK may not have the NHS service it wants it does have the service it deserves.
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https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Brexit/Embassy-wants-to-hear-about-carte-de-sejour-problemsSo couple of rogue Prefectures go freestyle, nothing new there, but it's not a question of requiring a CdS it's a question of exercising rights enshrined in EU law.Perversely the very reason that the Gironde are allegedly giving that UK is still in Europe so you don't need a CdS is the same reason which demonstrates that they are acting in contravention of the law and people are right to be worried about that because if they are prepared misinterpret the law - or worse deliberately ignore it and perhaps for motives driven by nothing more than monetary or resource limitations - come the day UK does actually leave the argument could easily switch to bugger off you're no longer European !Ultimately they wouldn't get away with it but it could create completely unnecessary worry and chaos for those affected along the way until they were brought into line.I'm done with the topic though, we've made our applications and it was nowhere near the bureaucratic hell many who have not like to imagine. Whether they will prove of any value only time will tell but I can only reiterate - yet again - that I see no possible downside.
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[quote user="Théière"]Skoda have an enviable record of class wins in motor sport but still badge snobbery clouds their value.[/quote]And long may it remain so as it keeps secondhand prices low which perfectly suits the likes of people like Chancer and me who are less prejudiced and blinkered - unlike Harsner !Just a week or so ago my 03 Octavia rolled over 300,000km (240k in my ownership) and has probably cost me less than the price of just one major service at a dealer !
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Well there it is then Norm and thank you for correcting me.Of course it's not entirely unconditional because the time out of the country factor still applies but it's a small point which I doubt will be of concern to many people.It does sort of beg the question as to the benefits of going the citizenship route which is a far more drawn out and involved/onerous process although that would conclusively remove any doubt over onward movement.[quote user="EuroTrash"]If I got all the paperwork together and went along and insisted on being issued with a cds now, then all I would have to do come Brexit would be prove ID and residence all over again and have the security checks[/quote]Given Norms post I don't know where you get that idea from not to mention the perverse logic in saying on one hand that you've had enough of red tape whilst at the same time refusing an opportunity to do something now whilst it's a know, straightforward, and relatively quick process, as opposed to putting it off and having to go through (as you yourself suggest) something which will be at least as officious - and quite likely more - later. I stand fully by my position that if qualified it's better to obtain your titre de séjour sooner rather than later though for which I reiterate the single overriding justification which is that there can be NO disadvantage to doing so.Only you ALBF could come up with a daft and juvenile comment like yours
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For as much as it says 'permanent' there are qualifications, principally your continued presence - which now means you can spend up to 5 years out out of the country instead of 2 - plus ongoing health care and self sufficiency etc. so issuing a card for 10 years gives the authorities the opportunity to verify eligibility at renewal time, not unlike the new 15 year duration driving licence which I can't believe sooner or later will not come to incorporate some sort of health checks, or at least a declaration, at renewal. If you want a life long unconditional right of residence then you take up citizenship.That's my theory anyway !
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Skoda may come under the VAG umbrella but as a unique brand they also do their own thing.Standard VW warranty is 2 years unlimited mileage + 1 year extended subject to 60k miles max.Skoda standard is the same but they have they have further options for extending, e.g. 4 years up to 80k or 5 years up to 100k.Dealers may improve on that.Skoda, the car which keeps on giving [:D]
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[quote user="EuroTrash"]you need to show you've been here continuously for at least 3 months before you are considered a new resident[/quote]You're talking about current rules not post Brexit after which UK citizens become foreigners and subject to the same rules which cover them. To suggest otherwise makes it tantamont to free movement which we know will come to an end with Brexit.You're right about the intrinsic value of a CdS however at the same time there is no possible downside to obtaining one and even if it does nothing more than jump the queues of late applicants who will surely throng and overwhelm just about every prefecture in the land it will be well worth the relatively small amount of effort needed which you're going to have to do at some time anyhow.
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Quoting again from the actual agreement document (my bold):"The overall objective of the Withdrawal Agreement with respect to citizens' rights is to provide reciprocal protection for Union and UK citizens, to enable the effective exercise of rights derived from Union law and based on past life choices, where those citizens have exercised free movement rights by the specified date.To date, both Parties have reached a common understanding on the following.The specified date should be the time of the UK's withdrawal."With terms like those bolded the only logical interpretation has to be that you must be in a qualifying position - i.e. 5 years residency - on the specified date, not just moved.Even if you moved tomorrow and the specified date were the end of the suggested two year transition period and not March 2019 you'd still only have around 3.5years in not have the 5 years required for a CdS permanent.
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[quote user="AnOther"]I disagree.The quote very clearly says "those already holding a permanent residence document" not those qualified to apply for one and not sure where you get the idea that applications made during a transition period would override that either.[/quote]Belay that, the text of the actual agreement:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/08/brexit-divorce-deal-agreement-full-read-report-published-phase/Administrative procedures for applications for status will be transparent, smooth and streamlined,2 in particular:
- The Withdrawal Agreement will specify that the host State cannot require anything more than is strictly necessary and proportionate to determine whether the criteria have been met. The Withdrawal Agreement will contain provisions that follow a similar approach to the provisions on evidential requirements in Directive 2004/38;
- The host State will avoid any unnecessary administrative burdens;
- Application forms will be short, simple, user friendly and adjusted to the context of the Withdrawal Agreement. The host State will work with the applicants to help them prove their eligibility under the Withdrawal Agreement and to avoid any errors or omissions that may impact on the application decision. Competent authorities will give applicants the opportunity to furnish supplementary evidence or remedy any deficiencies where it appears a simple omission has taken place. A principle of evidential flexibility will apply, enabling competent authorities to exercise discretion in favour of the applicant where appropriate;
- proportionate approach will be taken to those who miss the deadline for application where there is a good reason. Applications made by families at the same time will be considered together;
- and where an application is required to obtain status, adequate time of at least two years will be allowed to persons within the scope of the Withdrawal Agreement to submit their applications. During this time period, they will enjoy the rights conferred by the Withdrawal Agreement. Residence documents under the Withdrawal Agreement will be issued free of charge or for a charge not exceeding that imposed on nationals for the issuing of similar documents;
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I disagree.The quote very clearly says "those already holding a permanent residence document" not those qualified to apply for one and not sure where you get the idea that applications made during a transition period would override that either.
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Always remembering that nothing is a deal until it's ALL a deal, the implication seems to be that if you are not holding a CdS permanent on the appointed day then you will not get one.On that basis I think we can predict a tsunami of applications which will utterly overwhelm the system.Those who have been living under the radar will of course be royally stuffed.
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Davis and May resign, vote of no confidence in government, government falls and election called, Corby pledges to cancel Brexit, wins by landslide.Never thought I'd say it but in that scenario I'd vote Labour.
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