Firstly, I would like to apologise for using this topic as my first post, I have lurked around this forum for quite a while, and I cannot quite get to grips with the amount of pettiness and spitefulness that occurs. Surely, forums are for people to share and express opinions, that is how we all learn, and even though some may not appreciate others opinions, that is not a cause to pull apart a persons character, and possibly offend someone that you don't even know by assuming the worst, and guessing at a persons level of workmanship. It seems to be on this forum, a group of people who stick together, rather much like a clique, and when an outsider to this group makes a comment, the outsider gets hit upon, hard and fast. Surely a forum that puts itself across as friendly, and welcoming, should accept criticism and occasionally welcome it, not jump down the throat of someone, accuse them of having had one too many drinks the night before, and generally slate them straight away. From what I can read, Steve has apologised to Cassis, and Cassis, has "accepted" this apology, in a roundabout way, but Chris Head, and Dick Smith have carried on with this tirade of insults, with some others picking up on the argument and having to get their say in as well. (I suppose that would be one way of getting post counts up eh Blitzen) Its pettiness to the point of playground antics, (primary school, one might like to add). Everyone has the right to express their opinion, after all, there is still a thing called the freedom of speech, Steves' post may have come across as slightly insulting to some, but that was obviously his opinion, and as a forum, it should be taken in the spirit of forums..... criticism, after all, is what makes us do better in the long run. One other thing.... Cassis has said that "Steve is entitled to his opinion, not sure why he had to express it here" THIS IS A FORUM.... THATS WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!! Forums are there for information, and to be able to express ones opinion!!!!