Dear All, Firstly, I am not Peter Kay (whoever he is). I've been living in Australia for the last fifteen years and I don't have or want television. Secondly, I am not related to anyone else on the forum but that shows how many of us need data of a similar nature! Many thanks for your answers and help. A picture is emerging, however of costs in France. It seems to be rather the old swings and roundabouts. I appreciate, as I said your help. By the way, in case anybody asks, I found Western Australia pretty apathtic and boring, actually and had already intended to go to France but bought a cheap house in UK (right time and place!). Regards PeterK