FOR THE ATTENTION OF TEAMEDUP AND OUTCAST THERE WAS NO NEED FOR YOU BOTH TO BE SO ABRUBT. IF YOU ARE AN HGV DRIVER OUTCAST THEN YOU COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE HELPFUL AFTERALL I WAS NEW TO THIS SITE. I DIDN'T ASK FOR OPINIONS ON UMEMPLOYMENT RATES OR WAGES, I KNOW THIS ALREADY, BUT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HGV. THAT IS WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION! Thank you to the people who have sent me private messages, much appreciated!!! Lynian