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Thanks for the reply. Do you know if I will be able to reclaim CSG paid in 2013 & 2014 at the same time, or will I have to wait until 2015 to reclaim the CSG from 2014? Is there an official form to claim a refund- I haven't been able to find one - or will it be a case of writing a letter? (To make things more fun I will have moved to the states by the time I receive the avis...). [My situation isn't quite as you say - the double taxation treaty says that researchers and teachers moving from the UK to France for less than 2 years, as is my case, should only pay UK taxes on their salary, and not French taxes (where "French taxes" is as defined in article 2, including CSG and CRDS). All my other income is taxable in France and I will pay CSG and CRDS on it. It does surprise me that NI is not mentioned in the treaty.]

Thanks for the reply. I imagine I will have to pay the CSG due on my other income and later claim a refund. In answer to your question - I work at a french university and the double taxation treaty stipulates that I should pay UK tax on my salary, not French tax, where "French tax" includes CSG and CRDS. So ironically I am paying UK tax on my French income and French tax on my UK income... c'est bizarre, non ?

I was wondering if it is possible to reclaim overpaid CSG, preferably in the form of credit against CSG I owe. In short, CSG and CRDS have been deducted from my pay, despite the double taxation treaty stipulating that I should not pay these taxes (the University I work at didn't believe me/couldn't be bothered to do anything about it). I owe CSG on my UK dividends and capital gains. Does anyone know if there is any way to count the CSG I have paid already through my salary towards the CSG I owe? (I have asked this at the centre des impots but only now do I realise the answer they gave me was not the right one...)

Thanks for the replies. I went back to the tax office today. The person I spoke to today seemed more knowledgeable and more concerned about being correct in what he said. He confirmed that I only declare income from after I arrived, as you all said. So, thank you [:)]

Hi, I am in the final steps of completing my frustratingly complicated French tax return. It is the first time I have done it in France and it has been an epic headache. I have been to the service des impots several times and spent 90 mins talking to someone there this morning. I now think I am finally just about ready to actually fill in the papers from the spreadsheet. Before I do so I wanted to check a couple of things: I have some doubt as to how exactly to declare my ISA (stocks and shares) income. I have put it in with the other UK dividends in (2047 IV. 2 A), since I received no tax credit I wonder whether the 17.7% credit d'impot rate still applies. What do other people do? I have listed my foreign bank accounts in an accompanying letter. The only thing I am unsure of here is whether I need to declare my account with my stockbroker, since I technically have a capital account with them too.Thanks in advance!!

2TS in my 2042 is described as "Produits des contrats d'assurance-vie d'une duree inferieure a 8 ans et distributions." My French isn't very good, but that does not look like the right place for ISA income, no?

Hi, Sorry, it's another thread about filing your first tax return. I have moved to France midway through 2013 and am now in the process of filling in my declaration des revenus. I have 1001 questions and epic confusion, despite just now spending a couple of hours at the centre des impots! My most pressing issue concerns the foreign income that I need to declare. Until this morning I was under the impression that I need to declare all worldwide income received in 2013 only AFTER I arrived in Franace. However, the man I spoke to this morning told me multiple things. First he told me I do not need to declare worldwide income for 2013, only for 2014. This made me happy! However, I asked him about paying CSG - in the double taxation treaty between France and UK it says researchers at universities, like myself, do not pay CSG and other French taxes, some of which have been automatically taken off from my pay (despite me informing the university that it shouldn't be). He then told me, as a result of this, that I will afterall have to declare all foreign income (I am not sure of the relevence to the CSG, maybe it was seeing my French payslips that made him realise that I am tax resident in France for some of 2013). And all foreign income meaning all income for all of 2013. This will be complicated... So, is he right? Do I declare all income for all of the year I arrived, or just the income since I arrived. Thanks in advance.