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This has all been incredibly interesting and helpful, if not a little complex as was mentioned earlier.. Something to look into more thoroughly, and no doubt throw out even more specifics.. Thanks to everyone.

Thanks again for the replies. Perhaps the example of the musicians was slightly different as they were 'employed' by a venue and that venue presumably had to incorporate some type of PAYE equivalent within the fees? Perhaps my position might more likely fall into self employment category involving free trade within the EU.. And it's associated implications? Again, I look forward to any light that anyone can shed. Many thanks.

Thank you for all of the valued responses which I appreciate very much.. To add a little more clarity, my current position is that I have been tax resident in the UK for my entire (working) life and pay income tax and NI contributions as self employed within the UK (and have always fully declared all earned income there). I spend some time in France, but am well outside of the 'enough to become resident in France' bracket and continue to work on work projects within the UK. I recently sold my previous 'residence secondaire' in France and paid the full 16% 'impots' on the capital gain to the French authorities due as a 'non resident' in France, and submitted HMRC paperwork to the notaire/tax office stating this. This was a significant sum, and one which in my view, underscores my residential status. The question still arises in my mind however, of where one stands if one purchases goods (technically within the EU), and sells them within and beyond the EU (although ironically not within France itself) whilst 'on holiday' staying at 'one's residence secondaire'.. Especially if this income is fully declared to HMRC as one is a UK 'tax resident'.. Does this constitute 'working in France' or simply 'sourcing goods within the EU' and 'exporting worldwide' as part of one's business? The administration and banking takes place in the UK. Surely you cannot be required to pay social charges in France for this, or be required to submit siret numbers? This would throw up all kinds of implications - for example if you were a musician, recorded some music with French (and other musicians) whilst traveling in France (and you happened to also won a second property there).. Would this be considered 'working' in France or 'purchasing/creating' 'material' there? (consider if that material was then distributed worldwide..). Maybe I have this all wrong - or are there some clear references to what is considered 'income gained from within France' 'income gained from a fixed asset within France' (mentioned earlier) or 'EU freedom of trade/export/movement'? Again, many thanks for any responses..

Hello all, I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on a taxation issue..? If you are a UK tax resident and pay your income tax and NI in the UK, and you own a 'residence secondaire' in France, would you fall into the French tax system if you were to (for example) sell a few bars of soap on the internet which you bought during your visit to your 'residence secondaire' - and posted them to buyers whilst you were in France? Perhaps to be a little clearer (and the soap is an example only) - you advertised them on a non French website in non French currency, and sold them to buyers in say the UK or Australia, would the income be considered taxable in France even though the revenue never entered French territory? My reading of it was that this income would be declared to HMRC as it would arrive directly into the UK and I was a UK tax resident (and living primarily in the UK) or am I mistaken here? Might the French address have an impact even though we are in the EU and have free trade agreements? If I brought the bars of soap back in my car to the UK instead for example, and re-sold them on the internet from there, would there be any difference? The supplier(s) of the soap(s) are assumed to have paid all of their own relevant dues.. The quantities of money involved here are not large, but the technicality has entered the arena, and I would be very grateful for any views or knowledge in this area.. Many thanks indeed.