I just joined this forum so that I could comment on this post. I can barely believe what I'm reading and, before I go any further, Chiefluvvie has my full support! I guess she's probably thrown in the towel by now in utter disbelief. What a bizzare and scary world some of you live in - full of plot, sub plot, manipulation, big brother et al. Quite sad where safety is concerned - it's mostly just common sense - nothing more sinister than that. As for the data, statistics and 'proof' that some of you require - IF you really need it, go find it yourself - although I suspect it won't change your point of view anyway! Madness.....and I hope I'm never stuck inside of a metal tube, hurtling down a runway at 150mph, with some of you..... canasta