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  1. The Attestation d'accueil is for visitors to a home in France. It is not for owners. There is no mention of what second-home owners need. I think all you need to do when you travel there is to take some documentation confirming you own the property e.g. a taxe d'habitation or utility bill.

    There is a discussion here http://services.completefrance.com/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/forums/3684288/ShowPost.aspx

  2. Writing the e-mail address with spaces [or square brackets] either side of the at/arobase/dot/point makes it clearer so mazandcol[at]emailco[dot]com

    mazandcol at emailco dot com

    mazandcol arobase emailco point com or mazandcol[arobase]emailco[point]com are better than mazandcolatemailco.com

  3. Mint: I'm not sure what else to suggest regarding the online version except for the following:

    Last year there was a bug in the system (it was later corrected) with an unwanted form (2041E) appearing and persisting even with the necessary 8SH unticked. The only way to be sure of getting rid of it at first by completely clearing the cache and cookies (probably overkill but it worked). So it was necessary to untick 8SH, exit the tax forms, log out of www.impots.gouv.fr completely, close all the web browser tabs, delete all browsing data (depends on browser, usually under Tools) and then reboot the PC. Then 8SH could be ticked without the 2041E form appearing!

    If you decide to try a similar cache clearing exercise as that, I would suggest you go to the first 3916 page where all accounts are listed and delete them all (sorry!) Hopefully that would help to get rid of all problematic 3916 references.

    After you have done the reboot and logged back in, I think it should be possible to add an account at a time to 3916 as was suggested earlier?

    If it does come to needing to submit paper versions the deadline for them is Thursday 20 May this week!

    It is possible to download and print the forms. 2042 (2042C is on the same page), 2047, 3916:

    https://www.impots.gouv.fr/portail/formulaire/2042/declaration-des-revenus

    https://www.impots.gouv.fr/portail/formulaire/2047/declaration-des-revenus-encaisses-letranger

    https://www.impots.gouv.fr/portail/formulaire/3916/declaration-par-un-resident-dun-compte-letranger-ou-dun-contrat-de-capitalisation-ou

    You might want to add a printout of the first couple of online 2042 pages which contain your name, account number, etc rather than copying all the information? And send a message to the tax office explaining why you are sending the paper copy.
  4. Chessie I can't help you with the printed form as only you know what information you need to provide. although none of the fields on 2042/2042C have changed their meaning and content from last year. They are just in different places. So you should be able to use previous years as a guide.

    There is a good step-by-step guide with screen shots of each section of the forms 2042, 2042C, 2047, and 3916 and how to complete them online

    https://bh-assurances.fr/how-to-declare-your-tax-online/

    It is probably applicable to most here and is easy to follow and much easier to use than the printed versions.

    There is also a help guide to the forms and fields https://bh-assurances.fr/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/fichier-help-tax2.pdf

    However, it is for last year. There have been a couple of minor changes for this year. Ignore the exchange rate and the 2047 sections 1-11 should now be sections 1-13 - but that is only a renumbering not a change of content.
  5. Judith-aka-Judith: I wrote they simplified it as much was unnecessary for those who now pay all their tax by prélèvement.

    For the French who just have employment and French bank accounts/investments all the necessary information will have already been communicated to the tax office so their 2042 will have been completely filled in for them. All they need to do is to check it. If I understand correctly, it is possible in future years they even need to do that if their circumstances haven't changed.
  6. The k at the end of the form just means it is a pre-printed version of 2042C and it may contain numbers and other information added which the tax office know about. You can change that information if you think it is incorrect.

    They have made changes to the 2042 form and simplified it as much was unnecessary for those who now pay all their tax by prélèvement. As a result, some fields were moved to 2042C without any change of numbering, just located on a different form.

    You can find all the various 2042 forms here https://www.impots.gouv.fr/portail/formulaire/2042/declaration-des-revenus along with the notice on completing the form.

    The use of the k at the end is the same for all printed forms sent out. The versions without the k are available just by searching for the appropriate cerfa number.
  7. I assume you mean Visa de long séjour. There are different types depending on your reason for coming to France

    I think it will be from when you first arrive in France as you can request a visa up to three months before you arrive.

    But there are a lot of other conditions to fulfil e.g.

    https://tinyurl.com/yju39u89

    https://tinyurl.com/yj8pg3x5
  8. You now just need to tick 8SH/8SI

    There is also a page INFORMATIONS towards the end of 2042 online where you could add the note, as was done in the past.

    but see also http://services.completefrance.com/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/forums/3684172/ShowPost.aspx
  9. One last thought. Fill in the page with a bank account - I doubt it checks the contents. Hopefully it won't create another blank page. Then go back to that first 3916 page which lists them all and delete that last account page.

    Have an enjoyable birthday.
  10. Mint: can you go back to the first page of 3916 online where you have COMPTES DÉCLARÉS and need to state how many at the bottom of the page "Combien d'autres comptes ou contrats d'assurance-vie hors de France souhaitez-vous déclarer ?"

    What happens if you reduce the number you put in by one? I wonder whether it is displaying the extra page you don't need because the number you have put in is one more than the number of pages you need? It is possible, since you are completing 3916, it assumes you need one page so you need to put in one less than the total number of pages you want. ("How many OTHER accounts or life insurance contracts outside France do you wish to declare?")
  11. Your documents for past years are also available online in your account.

    Go to Tableau de bord then Documents then Consulter mes Documents.

    Select a year.

    Then click on Afficher les documents liés under Déclaration en ligne des revenus

    There will be lines for

    Déclaration en ligne des revenus = 2042

    Déclaration en ligne des revenus encaissés à l'étranger = 2047 and

    Déclaration en ligne par un résident d’un compte bancaire, d’actifs numériques = 3916
  12. nomoss: You don't need to tick 8RP/8RQ

    see the discussion from last year http://services.completefrance.com/forums/completefrance-forums/cs/forums/3678892/ShowPost.aspx

    which you concluded with

    Thanks, pomme. Ticking them didn't hurt anything anyway

    As an explanation, I wrote

    The full 2020 tax brochure pratique https://tinyurl.com/yc69bavh explains 8RP/8RQ:

    NON AFFILIATION À UN RÉGIME FRANÇAIS D'ASSURANCE MALADIE

    La CSG et la CRDS sur les revenus d'activité ainsi que la contribution salariale de 10 % applicables aux gains de levée d'options et aux gains d'acquisition d'actions gratuites imposés selon les règles

    des traitements et salaires sont dues par les contribuables affiliés à un régime obligatoire français d'assurance maladie.

    Si vous ne relevez pas d'un régime obligatoire français d'assurance maladie, cochez la case 8RP ou 8RQ. Les revenus déclarés case 1TT ou 1UT ne seront pas soumis aux contributions sociales (CSG, CRDS, contribution salariale).

    and 1TT/1UT are only for

    Gains de levée d'options attribuées à compter du 28.9.2012 ; gains d'acquisition d'actions gratuites attribuées à compter du 28.9.2012 sur décision prise au plus tard le 7.8.2015 ; gains d'acquisition d'actions gratuites attribuées sur décision prise à compter du 31.12.2016 pour leur fraction excédant 300 000 €

    So I don't think 8RP/8RQ are of relevance to many of us!
  13. Did you check box 8TT on 2042 by mistake? Contrats d’assurance-vie souscrits à l’étranger Joignez la liste des contrats ..8TT

    which is next to 8UU Comptes ouverts, détenus, utilisés ou clos à l’étranger Joignez la déclaration no 3916 – 3916 bis ou la liste des comptes sur papier libre ...

    checking 8TT will result in you needed to add the information on assurance vie on 3916
  14. You should complete 2047 first (Section 1 and Section 6) using the gross figures and then transfer the information back 8TK on 2042C. You also need to complete 1AL/1BL on 2042 for the government pension.

    1AM/1BM on 2042 are used for state (OAP) and private pensions.
  15. There is an article in the FT today "Global death toll from Covid more than double official number, study finds" (behind a paywall?) which includes:

    Academics at the University of Washington estimated 6.9m people had lost their lives to coronavirus, much higher than the 3.2m total recorded by the World Health Organization.

    This is the origin of that report

    http://www.healthdata.org/special-analysis/estimation-excess-mortality-due-covid-19-and-scalars-reported-covid-19-deaths

    It includes

    United Kingdom

    Total COVID-19 deaths 209,661

    Reported COVID-19 deaths 150,519

    and

    France

    Total COVID-19 deaths 132,680

    Reported COVID-19 deaths 105,506

    Lots of other statistics and predictions e.g.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-kingdom?view=cumulative-deaths&tab=trend

    and

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/france?view=cumulative-deaths&tab=trend
  16. Online, when you get to the page

    SELECTIONNEZ CI-DESSOUS LES RUBRIQUES QUE VOUS SOUHAITEZ FAIRE APPARAITRE

    you need to scroll down to DIVERS and tick

    Comptes à l'étranger, reprise de réductions ou de crédit d'impôt

    If you click on the ? to the RHS it will bring up an example of the page it refers to, which includes 8SH/8SI

    When you then go through and complete your return you will be presented with the page headed Divers which includes those boxes.

    I think you should be able to correct your return online.
  17. Nombre de décès mis à jour quotidiennement pour les décès survenant à l’hôpital et chaque mardi et vendredi pour les décès survenant au sein des établissements sociaux et médico-sociaux. (105,419)

    from https://www.santepubliquefrance.fr/dossiers/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-chiffres-cles-et-evolution-de-la-covid-19-en-france-et-dans-le-monde

    So no count of deaths at home.
  18. There is a version of the notice and the form in English which may be clearer?

    https://www.impots.gouv.fr/portail/files/formulaires/2041-e/2021/2041-e_3408.pdf

    It looks as though the label column 9 on the French version might be an error and should be column 7?
  19. Countries use different ways of deciding whether deaths are caused by Covid. The UK figures within 28 days of a positive test will include a lot of non-Covid deaths whereas I think France still only counts hospital deaths?

    For those countries that keep them, excess mortality is possibly a better measure. A good analysis of the issues in the calculations and figures for many countries (but not India)

    https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

    A search for

    covid excess deaths "india"

    will give various articles on figures for India
  20. I've just had a look on my form.

    I didn't have a figure in the boxes but I did have a click button "Pour consulter ou modifer le plafond global"

    Clicking on it gave a pop-up explanation box:

    ÉPARGNE RETRAITE

    Le plafond de déduction des cotisations PERP et produits assimilés (PREFON, COREM et CGOS) de 2021 est affiché sur votre déclaration des revenus si vous avez déclaré des cotisations au titre des revenus de 2020. Si vous n'avez pas cotisé l'an passé, ou si vous déclarez cette année un mariage ou un Pacs avec une déclaration commune, vous trouverez ce plafond sur votre avis d'impôt sur les revenus de 2020.

    Détail des plafonds de déduction

    Plafond de détail calculé 2020 4052

    Plafond non utilisé 2018 3862

    Plafond non utilisé 2019 3923

    Plafond non utilisé 2020 3973

    Plafond global 15810 (which is the total of those four figures)

    Attention : Si vous souhaitez modifier votre plafond global, indiquez ci-dessous le montant correspondant.

    Si vous avez validé par erreur une modification de plafond, effacez la zone de saisie concernée et cliquez sur « Valider ». Vous conserverez le plafond global connu de l'administration.

    So it is just a calculation of the maximum you can contribute to a PERP savings plan and can be ignored.
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