Rabbie
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[quote user="NickP"][quote user="Rabbie"] My advice is that if you disagree with the OP's views then help to keep this forum alive by putting up an intelligent rebuttal of his opinion and the debate can continue. It rather defeats the object of a forum if every controversial opinion is to be deleted.[/quote]Nobody asked for the subject to be deleted, so stop jumping the gun. Some people offered the view that this forum is not the place to start a political rant, and that is how the original post came over. Of course if you would like this forum to degenerate into a carbon copy of a similar one; where someone actually suggested a politician be assassinated because they didn't like his point of view that is your choice, but as contributors are in short supply it could be something to think about, as extremes of any kind should I feel be avoided.[/quote]I have reread Wooly's original reply where he suggested that Grecian's post had no place on this forum and that the mods might withdraw(delete) it. You and Another expressed your agreement with Wooly's post so I do not feel I was mistaken in thinking that you wanted the post deleted.
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[quote user="NormanH"]I think that he is simply positioning himself for after a Brexit.Cameron and Osborne would have to go and there will be space at the top...The idea that he is resigning over principle when he has spent years enforcing hardship is farcical.[/quote]There was a discussion about this on Newsnight.The consensus was that IDS was putting the knife into Osbourne and twisting it a bit and that the resignation had more to do with the referendum and less about the budget. Any resignation over the budget should have occurred on Wednesday not today
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[quote user="NormanH"]Perfectly reasonable to post this in "Other Topics"[/quote] The OP expressed a reasonable opinion supported by some Conservative MPs so IMO it was not too controversial. I was surprised at the reaction from some who I thought would be more tolerant of views they do not agree with. There was in my opinion nothing in the OP that broke forum rules or current forum usage. My advice is that if you disagree with the OP's views then help to keep this forum alive by putting up an intelligent rebuttal of his opinion and the debate can continue. It rather defeats the object of a forum if every controversial opinion is to be deleted.
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[quote user="Gardian"] Two weeks time? Sco to beat Fr, Ire to beat Italy, Us to edge it vs Wales .......... I hope !!![/quote]Congratulations Gardian on a correct forecast on all 3 games.Congratulations to England on winning the championship. I will be very surprised if they don't win the triple crown next week.
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I think there is no need to panic. Either the UK will vote to stay in or to leave. If the vote is to stay in then no change. If the vote is to leave then if the people who are leading it are to be believed (and why not) then they are going to negotiate a brilliant deal with the EU( their words not mine) so that everything in the garden will be even better. So whatever happens no need to worry
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[quote user="NickP"][quote user="Rabbie"]Another thought. What will happen if England votes to leave by a small majority but the overall UK vote is to remain in the UK - a by no means impossible scenario given the current opinion polls. Will the Out side accept this result or will this rumble on for many years[/quote] Your assumption is that the government will give results on a regional basis, I doubt it especially if your scenario arose, do you really think they would,? It would cause too much friction. I can imagine the English reaction to the Scots or the Welsh gloating, there would probably be a call for English independence and that would be a problem. As it is; I think there will be an overpowering a vote to stay anyway, so your thoughts while they concern you; will give me no sleepless nights.[/quote]My assumption was based on how the results were counted and given in the 1975 referendum where it was by parliamentary constituencies.I am not having any sleepless nights over the result. As Idun says what happens, happens and we will just have to live with it whatever the result. I do think it will be close and could well prove catastrophic for the Conservative party especially if your prediction is correct. Time will tell
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Why are the "leavers" so coy about saying what they will do if they win the referendum? Is it because despite their rhetoric they don't actually know? Michael Howard says he is in favour of getting a better deal so the UK can stay in after a second referendum. Nigel Farage says out should mean out but does not specify what deals he would actually be able to make. Boris Johnson seems to vary between these positions depending on who he is talking to. Ian Duncan Smith says staying in makes the UK more liable to terrorist attacks but is happy to continue to support the government on all other issues. Perhaps he doesn't want to give up his ministerial salary.I feel that if there is a vote to leave then many of those who voted for it are going to be disappointed with what actually happens.Another thought. What will happen if England votes to leave by a small majority but the overall UK vote is to remain in the UK - a by no means impossible scenario given the current opinion polls. Will the Out side accept this result or will this rumble on for many years
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As a UK resident I will be voting to stay in. This is because I consider it to be the best option for Britain. I do not feel a leap into the unknown is likely to be in the best interests of this country. The next major crisis for Europe(the continent not just the EU) is the migrant crisis which looks set to get even larger in the near future. As one of the countries who by their actions have helped to destabilise the Middle East and Libya we have a responsibility to help resolve this. Some of those seeking asylum are doctors and nurses. Perhaps we could use their skills to help theNHS which has a serious shortfall of people with the necessary skills. The whole problem needs looking at with an open mind so that sensible solutions can be found
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When I was caught speeding in Ireland in a hire car I had to pay the fine as expected but no points were put on my UK licence. They took details of the U.K. Licence so if it was ever exchanged for an Irish licence the points could be applied. So no worries about points unless you are in your country of residence
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[quote user="AnOther"]Official info: http://etsc.eu/faq-eu-cross-border-enforcement-directiveIf the UK is no longer in the EU in May 2017 what of the scheme then ? [/quote]If there is a vote in favour of the UK leaving the EU there is a two year transition period while the terms of leaving are negotiated so technically the UK should comply but in reality who knows
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The Norwegian and Swiss options make very little difference to what we have today. We would pay a similar amount to what we do now, Be bound by the the same rules but have no say in any changes to the rules. Norway, in fact, has more EU immigrants per head of population than the UK.The other two options leave a lot to be decided after the decision has been taken so it is very much a leap of faith as to whether it will be advantageous or not.
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There is also a Euro ATM at the ferry terminal in Portsmouth. If you are using a French bank card then there would be no exchange rate costs but there might be a charge by your bank for using the machine.I would think it likely that there are Euro ATMs at othe ferry ports and airports
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[quote user="ebaynut"]Rabbie wrote,The danger with racism is that it can lead to these horrific crimes. Look what happened in *** Germany. Just because some people from a particular country or race commit a horendous crime does not justify anyone in condemning all people from that country or race.But if that is the case, then why were all hand guns in the UK taken from all lawfully registered enthusiasts and collects by the government ( and a poor compensation payment given, I heard enough people whinging about the amount they received) after just one mad man goes into a school in Dunblane. The actions of one man meant a whole nation of firearms holders were condemned.One pit bull type dogs attacks a child, and suddenly a whole breed is condemned and the dangerous dog’s act is brought in.But 200 plus Pakistani men rape young white girls in Rotherham, and no-one wants to talk about it. A large cover up, as its not PC to talk about it. Then of course the same thing happened in Rochdale and Oxford, other places are also involved.But hey lets welcome these nice people to the UK, they need our help and support, but never ever, mention the hundreds or thousands of underage rape victims that they preyed on.Easier just to change channel and pretend these things never happen!!![/quote]It;s really very simple. In my posts I express the logical view. However politicians who want to be re-elected react to the emotional view put forward by the media and react accordingly.
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Marmite saidDon't know how you lot can put contact lenses into your eyes, takes the optician ages to put the drops in my eye on checkups, total wuss re my eyes.I am exactly the same. Never given contact lenses a thought. I'll stick with my varifocal glasses. Mind you I don't know how that would work with a scuba mask but it was fine with ski goggles
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Total cover ups as no one wanted to be accused of being racist, which lets face it, is seen as more as a crime than organised gang rape of young white girls by large groups of Pakistani men.
I so wish that I could dismiss that as the rantings of someone with very different ideas and values to mine, but that would be putting my head in the sand which is what progressively happened over the years leading to the shameful situation.
[/quote]The danger with racism is that it can lead to these horrific crimes. Look what happened in Nazi Germany. Just because some people from a particular country or race commit a horendous crime does not justify anyone in condemning all people from that country or race. -
As I see it we have a pretty good idea of what things will be like if we stay in (the status quo plus Cameron's concessions. What happens if we leave does seem to be much harder to determine. Depending on which member of the "leave" side you listen to there is a wide choice of options. Some of them seem to me to be extremely optimistic. I really don't see the EU making a lot of concessions if we leave and I am sure that for every concession they make they will want one back in return. That is the way that negotiations tend to work in the real world.There is no credible evidence that the UK loses money by having EU immigrant workers here. Any figures I have seen indicate the vast majority are paying UK taxes and although some are receiving in-work benefits that should cease as the new concessions come into force.Immigration from non-EU countries is as has been already stated not affected by or EU membership so no real change on that front. As for our relationship with the USA I for one would not want the UK to get closer to a USA led by Trump, a man whose politics seem to be much more extreme than those of any UK party even including UKIP
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I hope you and your dogs enjoy your new home.
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Not sure if this an indicator of the result. Things can change over 4 months but the bookies normally get two horse races dead right http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-resultTime will tell
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I would only tip them if I felt they had gone beyond what can reasonably be expected. If they are just doing their job then no need to tip them
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Serious answerIf the referendum result is to stay in then there will be very little change except for the points covered in the agreement.If the referendum result is to leave then we just don't know what will happen. It all depends on what new arrangements are made and there are nearly as many suggestions as there are people wanting to leave. If as some have suggested today the UK will require visas from EU citizens then it would not be surprising if EU countries required visas for UK citizens. To be honest nobody really knows what will happen if the UK votes to leave. Perhaps a clearer picture will emerge as we get closer to the vote
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[quote user="idun"] I think that I get rather sick of this silly argument about saving a bit of money making FA difference.At home, it always does. And remember this govt, IDS's DWP, has had absolutely no qualms about venomously attacking those poorest in society and doing little for the indigenous population that needs help, because plenty of people do. And yet, apparently money going abroad is considered OK, well not by me.[/quote]For once in this debate I agree with Idun about benefits being sent abroad and the way this government has leant on the poorest in order to boost the wealthy. Let us not forget that in-work benefits are a subsidy for the employer not for the employee. It seems reasonable to me that anybody working a full week should be be paid enough to support themselves and not need a top-up from the government.
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Reading this thread confirms my opinion that the UK voters can be split into three groups; those who want out regardless of any deal agreed, those who want to stay in even on the present terms and those who are waiting to see what emerges before making up their minds.It is easy to criticise Cameron for his negotiating skills but it we must remember that he is dealing with people who need to keep their own electorate happy and who do not want to be seen to be giving in to the UK. To his credit he is not capitulating the way Margaret Thatcher did when she signed up to Single European Act in 1986. This was surely the biggest transfer of sovereignty in any of the treaties over the years.For those who are still undecided it would be helpful if the Brexit side could give an honest description of what will happen if they get their way.
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Provided your hot water tank is well insulated then there should be very little difference in costs regardless of which option you choose. We always have the HW heating on and the costs are not more than when we only had it on at certain times. There was no increase in the amount of oil used when we changed. Having it on all the time has the advantage that there is always hot water when we need it. Nothing more irritating than loosing the hot water halfway through a shower
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