Thanks for the replies folks. I have, and still do work for no money, or prizes. The way I see it, might as well keep writing and practicing. Also I have picked up the odd commissioned piece from a no fee gig. In recent years, about 75% of my work has been corporate, either printed lit, or web content. If I go back 10 years it was 75% published and 25% web and corp. As things stand, there is too much competition, forcing low fees from publishers. Gotta do something to earn a crust!