English language errors or change of emphasis?

[woolybanana]

I find this very uncomfy as the word order aint right to me. Any conments?

Spanish stolen art haul found after offer to scrapyard

I think it has to to be  Stolen Spanish are haul...

Any thoughts?

 

[Rose]

you bored WB? [:$]

[woolybanana]

Watching NCIS too

[Rose]

what's that?

[woolybanana]

Frenc TVn M6. anotherpolice seriece by anoother name

 

[Rose]

I've just caught up on an earlier thread and realise why your typing is so rubbish... and there was me thinking you'd been on the sauce [:$]

[woolybanana]

Sause a little too as I have let off the reins for a few days but crep typing baceause I promised Chancer that i would show him he was not the only one who types badly; but maybe type netter when a bit piseed

[Chancer]

What is NCIS called on the original american or UK version?

The main actor is a gingernut, or is that another flic program?

[Chancer]

Spanish stolen art haul found after offer made to scrapyard.

Any better?

Or perhaps

Spanish stolen art haul found after being offered to scrapyard

[woolybanana]

try "Stolen Spanish art fund.... etc

[Loiseau]

Spanish stolen art haul found after offer to scrapyard

For a start, there's some tautology there, surely?

"Spanish art haul found after being offered to scrapyard" would seem more felicitous.

Angela

[woolybanana]

Although the rule for ordering multiple adjectives is a bit unstable in English, it is generally

Opinion

Size

Age

Shape

Colour

Origin

Material

Purpose

I felt uncomfy with the ordering before the noun at the head of teh s entence. But it may be that the orderr is changing or at leadt getting more fluid. It was never too certain as even the big grammars seemed to hesitate.

As you all have nothing to do this grey morning, you may care to peruse this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjective

 

[Chancer]

You have both lost me with your grammatical terms, as Clint Eastwood once said "a man has to know his limitations"

Should there be an "alleged" somewhere? Doesnt the the theft need to be proven or is it just the guilt of the alleged perpetrators

[cooperlola]

The stolen and the Spanish are *rs* about face as you say.  Stolen Spanish art...

 But Wooly darling, you posted a thread with the word "soecial" (sic) in the title, so why get fussy all of a sudden?......[Www]

[Loiseau]

Eeeeek! That Wiki link Wooly!!

I didn't think I had many problems with grammar until I read it. Now I feel like someone who was able to walk perfectly - until asked to stop and describe exactly every part of the process.

Angela

[Patf]

What about:

 Found! Spanish art - stolen? .....after offer to scrapyard.

[Anton Redman II]

If you are a native English speaker you have know idea what grammar is until you learn another language and by then it is too late. Though IMHO French suffers from exactly the same problems as English. Spelling locked before pronunciation and rules drawn up by a collection of pedants pretending to add logic to chaos

[woolybanana]

It was part of a gesture of solidarity with Chancer not to edit posts, to prove to him that he is not the only one who has fingers like ......... bananas which do not type very well.

[Chancer]

An,d very toucehd i am by it too [:D]

[Gluestick]

That's what happens when kids are not taught Clause and Phrase Analysis in English Grammar!

And are unable to distinguish between Subjective and Objective.

Let's consider: "Spanish stolen art haul found after offer to scrapyard".The word "Spanish" is an adjective, qualifying the noun "Art": The word "Stolen" is an Adverb moderating the verb "Stolen Thus the logical way to express this, would be "Stolen Spanish art haul found": then the second phrase (not a clause since it lacks an active verb and a subject) would be more properly expressed, in full as "after being offered to scrapyard."

Thus the more grammatical and effective shortform headline would be: "Stolen Spanish art haul found after offered to scrapyard".

The word "Being" can be omitted without losing the absolute sense of the obviously intended meaning.

I think! [8-)]

Far too brain-fatigued to even think properly now!

[woolybanana]

Just how old are you Gluey? it hasn't been taught that way since the middle of the last century!

[cooperlola]

I think it should be "after having been offered to scrapyard."  I know that "after being offered" is acceptable these days but it never sounds right to me.

[Gluestick]

[quote user="woolybanana"]Just how old are you Gluey? it hasn't been taught that way since the middle of the last century![/quote]

Oh yes it was, Woolly, at the Grammar School I attended and what's more, we took the old Cambridge "O" levels, thus the syllabus accorded to that.

But then Greek and Latin were part of the lower school syllabus too.

I'm glad to say the excellent academic standards persist: and I keep in touch with the school since I'm a keen life member of the Old Boy's Association.

And old I might be; but not that old!

[:)]

[woolybanana]

Yes, it had to be a garmmar or private school. Great stuff.[:D]

[bubbles]

Oh, yes!!!!!!

Caesar's Gallic Wars.

Brilliant stuff.

Can't beat the old ablative absolute.