brianagain Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 The photo makes it look like he's being taken in to help with enquiries (more's the pity it isn't so)Brian (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 And now this : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14107410 Methinks somebody is going to the Tower .... if not there than Wormwood Scrubbs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 As many suspected it did spread to The Sun and The times (On Sunday). As much as I dislike Gordon Brown the hacking or stealing his sons medical records is a bit out of order. Heads will definitely have to roll now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'm not a fan of Brown's either. What worries me is this - how much was I influenced by the relentless anti - attitude from various newspapers ?Hoddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 That is a very honest thing to say, and touches the heart of the problem.Media ownership confers power to form opinion by selecting information and deciding how to present it.None of us can ever know the truth of most things we hear of and are at the mercy of our sources of information.Just comparing French and Anglophone coverage of current affairs confirms this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 It seems that News Corporation Inc (the Murdoch parent company0 may be in breach of US laws against bribing foreign officials. This would apply of any employee of the company made payments to example the UK police. it seems what goes around comes around[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote user="Rabbie"]It seems that News Corporation Inc (the Murdoch parent company0 may be in breach of US laws against bribing foreign officials. This would apply of any employee of the company made payments to example the UK police. it seems what goes around comes around[:)][/quote]Hoddy, exactly although in my case (of not liking him) it was robing my pension which I watched happen but thats a different matter but nobody deserves this sort of thing.Rabbie, I was not paying attention but I am sure somebody said that shareholders of the company in the US are considering some for a legal action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulT Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 And in the US he owns Fox News which is very supportive of the Republican party, so they will not want to rock the boat. The Democrats - well if they rock the boat he may campaign even more for the Republicans. Then of course there are his US papers.But whay has he been allowed to control so many newspapers in the UK - surely it is uncompetitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 [quote user="PaulT"]And in the US he owns Fox News which is very supportive of the Republican party, so they will not want to rock the boat. The Democrats - well if they rock the boat he may campaign even more for the Republicans. Then of course there are his US papers.But whay has he been allowed to control so many newspapers in the UK - surely it is uncompetitive?[/quote]Because our gutless politicians want to keep in his good books. It wouldn't surprise me if generous contributions to party funds eased the way around the monopolies commission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Quillan wrote :Rabbie, I was not paying attention but I am sure somebody said that shareholders of the company in the US are considering some for a legal action? I think you will find that after paying out $673 million for his daughters film/TV production company and giving her a place on the board the shareholders are far from happy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14142307Looks the offer for B Sky B has been withdrawn....[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Perhaps they are trying to put off any investigation by the commission just in case they find out any more 'nasties'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 A suggestion that I heard was that Murdoch may consider selling off the newspapers and then play a waiting game for BSkyB.According to the pundits print media is dying, people go to the internet for their news. Although the News International titles are profitable at the moment that may not always be the case - get rid of them while they still have value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 It seems Murdoch, senoir and Junior are not obliged to present themselves to the House of Commons as directed - Junior has expressed his willingness to be interviewed at a later date (oddly, in the Hof C recess).Surely if they not happy to abide by the rules of the UK then they shouldn't be in business of the UK, my view is that you shouldn't be able to pick and choose, either you are 'in' or out and if you choose out then go take your business elsewhere.....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14148658 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 "either you are 'in' or out and if you choose out then go take your business elsewhere....."I couldn't agree with you more. I remember feeling very cross when the boss of Kraft would not attend to talk about the Cadbury takeover. It's one of the reasons I'm on a one-woman boycott of Cadburys.Hoddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Looks like they have changed their minds, or been persuaded to co operate more [;-)]Additionally from reports I heard on lunchtime radio the US and Australian governments are getting more interested in their activities.......fancy that !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I am surprised that the criminal investigation hasn't been taken out of the Met police's hands in light of recent disclosures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Rebekah Brooks has resigned ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Well that's the right thing to do.I believe the deputy or assistant Sergeant at Arms yesterday went and handed Murdoch and his son a 'summons' to appear at the HoC. I had heard elsewhere that they cannot be forced to appear (because they are not UK citizens) so I am not too sure of the significance of this. Perhaps if he left the UK he might not be allowed back in if he didn't attend when asked? Having seen the original letters his and he son sent saying when he could appear (on first name terms I noted with the Chairperson) I thought "bloody cheek", I don't think the tone bode well with the British public.Now the FBI is to investigate in the US. Murdoch has made a statement to an American newspaper, one he owns of course, saying his company dealt with everything properly. I had a glance at The Sun, not a paper I would normally look at. It seems The Guardian has apologised over the Brown (Child) comments yet I can't find anything in The Guardian but |I didn't look too hard I must admit. Other than Brooks resigning there is little or no reporting on the issue, perhaps they also feel it will go away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoddy Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I don't think that there is a question of the Murdochs not being allowed back into Britain if they don't appear before the committee. There was no mention of such a sanction when the boss of Kraft refused.Hoddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 [quote user="Russethouse"]Rebekah Brooks has resigned ![/quote] Yep! Probably spent the last two weeks working out her resignation pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardener Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-july-11-2011/have-no-fear--england-s-here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 [quote user="NickP"][quote user="Russethouse"]Rebekah Brooks has resigned ![/quote] Yep! Probably spent the last two weeks working out her resignation pay off.[/quote]Well then lets hope that if she has done something wrong from a legal point of view and found guilty she goes to prison and the fine she gets equals her payoff. That would seem justice to me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The likes of Ms. Brooks are much too clever to be caught doing anything illegal, and even if they did soil their hands there are plenty of underlings willing to be a sacrifice and take the blame. Although if morality or lack of it was an offence she should be hung drawn and quartered; slowly. But no, she will be well protected legally and financially to will continue her privileged life style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Mrs Brooks (or Miss Wade as she was) and her proprietor and their obsession for selling papers by appealing to the more base instincts of the population have done more than offend people by illegal phone hacking: they have demonised men.Thanks to their reporting and headlining of the relatively small number of appalling crimes against children, they have managed to create the perception - among some people - that all men are potential hazards to children. In doing so, they have created a climate in which men are now reluctant to behave in a relaxed fashion among children. Lone men are treated with suspicion especially in places where children may be present - public parks etc.When I was young, my mother would send me out to play. Mothers today do not let their children out of their sight. After all, there is a paedophile on every corner - or at least that is the impression these people have. Do you remember Miss Wade's attempt to "out" paedophiles?She has now gone - but the damage has been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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