NormanH Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/world/europe/05britain.htmlIt is really time that the people at the top of the organisation were held responsible for this sort of gutter journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I don't think that you had to go to the New York Times to find this story! Milly Dowler's family had to suffer the "defence" of their daughter's killer at his trial. Now they have this to deal with.What concerns me is that News International is expected to be given permission to buy the 61% of BSkyB that it doesn't already own, and that British politicians like to "get close" to Rupert Murdoch. Edited for accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 [quote user="Clarkkent"]I don't think that you had to go to the New York Times to find this story! Milly Dowler's family had to suffer the "defence" of their daughter's killer at his trial. Now they have this to deal with.What concerns me is that News International is expected to be given permission to buy the two thirds of Sky that it doesn't already own, and that British politicians like to "get close" to Rupert Murdoch.[/quote]True, but I find it a particularly good newspaper with a real world view (see http://www.nytimes.com/pages/world/index.html)as opposed to the navel gazing of the French media and the increasing triviality of even 'serious' papers in the UK which seem more and more obsessed with football and 'personalities' with no personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I can't believe this is just one paper in his 'stable', I think there is a lot more to come out of this. Ford, the car maker, has dropped it's advertising with them and Tesco is considering if it should follow. I do not think News International should have such a big hold on the UK news media and rather than allow it to buy more it should be forced to sell off at least half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The problem is that all the UK politician are fearful of upsetting Murdoch. From the days of Thatcher all the party leaders have fawned on him so I doubt if anything is going to change anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Indeed Rabbie.I note, in the confusion surrounding the activities of DSK, that the hotel maid involved is sueing the New York Post for saying she is a prostitute.Guess who owns the New York Post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Let's face it if you are silly enough to use a mobile phone (an insecure one at that) why shouldn't people acess it?If the journo had found the killer he would now be a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 So the actions of the journalist in changing stuff on the phone like deleting messages which gave the impression to the parents the girl was alive is OK by you is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard51 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 If anyone feels strongly about the Murdoch media domination....http://www.avaaz.org/en/murdoch_messages_2/?cl=1144738101&v=9510Mrs R51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Anyone found reading Murdoch's papers should be stripped of the right to vote.Problem solved.Gutter trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote user="Dog"]Let's face it if you are silly enough to use a mobile phone (an insecure one at that) why shouldn't people acess it? If the journo had found the killer he would now be a hero.[/quote]That is no excuse for deleting the Voicemail messages on Milly Dowler's phone and giving her family false hope at a time of great stress and worry for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote user="Rabbie"][quote user="Dog"]Let's face it if you are silly enough to use a mobile phone (an insecure one at that) why shouldn't people acess it? If the journo had found the killer he would now be a hero.[/quote]That is no excuse for deleting the Voicemail messages on Milly Dowler's phone and giving her family false hope at a time of great stress and worry for them[/quote]So Dog... you don't condemn these phone hacks. Is that correct? You think it's all perfectly acceptable? If that's the case I presume you feel the same about the breaking news of the 7/7 bombing hacking?Or is this just a bit of trolling on your part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSKS Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 It's hard to pretend we live in a democracy when the organs of Citizen Rupert are so influential. Should this 'phone business destroy his company's credibility and his dirty little rags then I shall shed not one tear.This is one of the most contemptibly cynical journalistic wheezes imaginable. Maybe this house of cards will, at last, fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote user="DerekJ"][quote user="Rabbie"][quote user="Dog"]Let's face it if you are silly enough to use a mobile phone (an insecure one at that) why shouldn't people acess it? If the journo had found the killer he would now be a hero.[/quote]That is no excuse for deleting the Voicemail messages on Milly Dowler's phone and giving her family false hope at a time of great stress and worry for them[/quote]So Dog... you don't condemn these phone hacks. Is that correct? You think it's all perfectly acceptable? If that's the case I presume you feel the same about the breaking news of the 7/7 bombing hacking?Or is this just a bit of trolling on your part?[/quote]Possibly because he was one of them working in 'the print' as he has mentioned more than once. [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I just wondered what Murdoch owns so did a google and found News International on Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation I didn't realise they where quite that big. It's also interesting who they have given financial support to over the years. Having read all that I am even more convinced that News Corporation/International should be broken up. It reminds me of that James Bond film where the media chap tried to dominate the world, perhaps the film was somewhat 'toungue in cheek' and the character modelled on Murdoch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Matthew Norman is better informed than I am, and puts it better than I could:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/opinion/matthew-norman/matthew-norman-now-is-the-moment-to-stop-murdoch-2307410.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russethouse Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Should this 'phone business destroy his company's credibility and his dirty little rags then I shall shed not one tearYesterdays revelations are bad enough, todays worse, his company's credibility is pretty much destroyed More from Norman Smith here Frankly, I'd boycott his papers, but I don't read them anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The knock on effect . I note this morning that shop owners are worried that things are so tightbusiness wise. A drop off in numbers buying newspapers over this will effect other sales for them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyA Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Then perhaps those people should go out and buy The Guardian, without whose persistence and courage, this story might never have been heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 News of the World is dead. Last issue this Sunday.Now just to get rid of the rest of the tabloids.Guess it'll come back under another name, but it's scary it was Britain's number 1 newspaper. Are people really that thick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianagain Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Don't suppose it will be long before the "Sun on Sunday" appears on the newsstands (or am I just a cynic?)Brian (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The N of the W was first published 1 Oct. 1843. The cheapest newspaper available, it was aimed at the newly -literate "working classes." Became known as the purveyor of titillation, shock and criminal news.There will always be a demand for this kind of reading material, even under another name.What is more shocking is that top politicians allow themselves to be associated with such rubbish, even if indirectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkkent Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 "What the proprietorship of these papers is aiming at is power, and power without responsibility is the prerogative of the harlot through the ages."Stanley Baldwin, 1st Earl Baldwin of Bewdley (1867-1947) It would seem that Rupert Murdoch has now learned that with power comes accountability. I am reminded of Shelley's poem Ozymandias. ... Or am I being too melodramatic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 brianagain, i don't think you are a cynic at all.http://webwhois.nic.uk/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=thesunonsunday.co.ukThe Sun on Sunday domain name was registered on 5 July 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 No more "News of the Screws"??? Unbelievable !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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