NormanH Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 And perhaps a change from the constant references to articles in The Guardian would give us a more rounded view....?Such as my original post from Valeurs actuels which is the only other reference I have made in this thread?Isn't that rabid right enough for yhou to give "a more rounded view....?Here is an article from Le Figarohttps://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/dix-huit-militaires-en-activite-signataires-d-une-tribune-controversee-vont-passer-devant-un-conseil-militaire-20210428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehaut Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Puts me in mind of Admiral West and the towpath papers, my wife did not like working for that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessfou2 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I suppose that Le Figaro counts as left-wing when compared with Valeurs actuels (valeurs d'il y a 60 ans?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 There was civil war in France yesterday. How many policeman/women /Pompiers injured all over France ?And this is just the beginning. The fireman/pombier caught on camera being hit with something with his back turned...Well, if I was him, I would grabbed the fecker, dragged him into a corner and asked for a proper fight. What a coward. Who the FECK would move to France ? Who would go on holiday to France ?France HAS become a dump of a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 ALBF wrote --There was civil war in France yesterday. How many policeman/women /Pompiers injured all over France ? And this is just the beginning. The fireman/pombier caught on camera being hit with something with his back turned... Well, if I was him, I would grabbed the fecker, dragged him into a corner and asked for a proper fight.What a coward. Who the FECK would move to France ? Who would go on holiday to France ? France HAS become a dump of a country.One could be forgiven that you don't like France!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I don't like what France is becoming Ken.I care about France like the next person which is why I am so angry...or hungry as they say in France.I have 3 kids. Macron or MLP...the kids will have to deal with 6 years of civil war.What do you do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 Why 6 years? A French President serves for 5 years. Is that yet another fact about France that you don't know? https://www.elysee.fr/en/french-presidency/the-presidents-of-the-republicAnd what is this nonsense about ' I am so angry...or hungry as they say in France' Who are the 'they' and why would they say it? As they say in France is the sort of phrase used by those who don't live here.There is no confusion between 'avoir faim' and 'être en colère ' which is what French people might say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Noroman said.."Why 6 years? A French President serves for 5 years. Is that yet another fact about France that you don't know?https://www.elysee.fr/en/french-presidency/the-presidents-of-the-republicAnd what is this nonsense about ' I am so angry...or hungry as they say in France' "Jeeeeeus Norman. JEESSUS NORMAN ! LOL5 Years + 1 year (Macron term remaining) = 6 Years. Duh !When a French person says 'angry' in French it sounds like 'hungry'. Or vice versa. Like, ships, chips and sheep. You need to live in France a little bit longer my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Six years, ie this year, pre the next election and then a further five years.I was usually good at sums.[Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 There is no danger of civill war in France. There hasn't been since the revolution and that was hardly civil war. Anyone who thinks so must be stupid! There has never been civil war in France and I feel sure there never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 And the Vendée Wars, Ken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Oooh Kenny boy. Can I call you Kenny ?There is a civil war going on in France.It is not your text book 'civil war' but it is a civil war none the less. Something about religion I think. Amongst other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 ALBF wrote: Oooh Kenny boy. Can I call you Kenny ?Of corse you can . That's what my mum called me!The fact is there isn't a civil war going on. Stop dribbling when you have your milk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 [quote user="Ken"]ALBF wrote: Oooh Kenny boy. Can I call you Kenny ?Of corse you can . That's what my mum called me!The fact is there isn't a civil war going on. Stop dribbling when you have your milk!!![/quote]Seems like a bad day for you - on the second bottle already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 "When a French person says 'angry' in French it sounds like 'hungry'. Or vice versa."No it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 ANOTHER BANANA wroteAnd the Vendée Wars, Ken?Well, I did say since the revolution did I not? The Vendee war was during that period. It may also be splitting hairs but..; academics have always referred to the Vendee war as 'War' not a civil war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Town against town, brother against brother, village against village, it was Civil War. Though there were troops involved from outside the region; most of the Vendéen generals were local and the others were outsiders.Same with other areas of France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Yes it does Norman.Do you live in France Norman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 own against town, brother against brother, village against village, it was Civil War. Though there were troops involved from outside the region; most of the Vendéen generals were local and the others were outsiders. Same with other areas of France.Unfortunately insurrections don't count as civil war!!! I'm afraid you need to check your definitions of what civil war is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Notice the titlehttps://academic.oup.com/fh/article-abstract/2/2/187/638761?redirectedFrom=fulltexthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 BANANA: Well I can 't argue against what you have found other than to say I'm still splitting hairs! Your article mentions a 'grande guerre' after the title of civil war.and I still stick to what I said that there hasn't been a civil war since the revolution and that wasn't really a civil war. We both know what we mean by a civil war: The civil war in the USA, the War of the Roses in England, modern Middle East etc. That has never happened in France. You could apply the term civil war to any dispute but as I said, we both know what a civil war is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehaut Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 If they do this to new recruits, watch out the disgruntled Generals!!https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/08/french-military-pilot-tied-up-on-firing-range-during-bombing-as-prank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Another warning from the Army; there is much disaffection in the ranks. Though if the military were to give a hand dealing with the drug dealers it might not go amiss.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57055154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin963 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Indeed, reported on France 3 and TF1 this lunchtime, and described as received with cold disdain by the political classes.If they (Macron et al) had any sense they'd be "engaging" with this warning signal, particularly if it indeed reflects (as was reported last week) the majority view of the French people themselves..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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