Thanks sunday driver that seems to answer the question, it seems to be the same as the UK. Wen Im not sure I agree with you, I dont see why it would be any less safe in the front of a van than the rear of a car providing they are securly in. I just dont want to fall faul of the law. Where I live in France (46) I havnt seen any loose children or dogs in the cars, they seem to be quite a responsible lot here. [;-)]