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  1. Hello ALBF me old fruitcake, how you doin'? Is the little man a happy chappy again? "So I can nip down to Lloyds, Superdrug, Boots or HMV the day before leaving and ask for a antigien test (1 adult and 2 kids) FOC." You can book tests with Lloyds pharmacy online. It's not free, it's £23 per test or summat like that, results within 15mins or so it says on the website. Not all branches do them but quite a lot seem to. I know this because I have one booked for tomorrow. I have my fingers crossed that it works and by this time tomorrow I will know. Don't even try Boots, their website did my head in last year - it made you pay for the test first before you could book an appointment, so I paid and then couldn't find a Boots within 100 miles of me where I could get a sodding test. Then it logged me out and it took me ages to log back on to get my money back. Lloyds is easy peasy to book and you pay the shop when you turn up.
  2. Well I thought I'd look in again and see if the forum had turned over a new leaf for the new year and become a pleasant, friendly place for banter. Noooooo..... more of the same old, same old. Even the Xmas greetings thread has turned into the usual opinionated outpourings, how ironic is that ! Happy New Year to Noisette. Idun, Gardian and other old-timers that I used to enjoy chatting with in the days when this forum used to be a nice place to visit.
  3. A thread about people who cross the Channel on rubber boat, some of whom are asylum seekers and some of whom are aiming to be illegal immigrants, is to my mind not at all the same thing as a thread about illegal immigrants. A person fleeing terror or whatever, who requests asylum as soon as they cross the border into their destination country, and who is subsequently granted, never was an illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrants are the ones who leg it and disappear into the decor as soon as they land, taking advantage of the UK's lax labour laws and refusal to adopt ID cards which makes it easy for them. Different situations, different issues, different problems needing different solutions. But I agree with Debra, the whole thread has become sickening and I'm out. Same goes for this forum.
  4. I thought the debate was supposed to be about people who cross the Channel in rubber boats. Some of those are asylum seekers, some are illegals. That's one of the problems caised by the lack of secure routes. But if the debate has moved on and is now about illegals only, my bad, I haven't been following it closely.
  5. OK I'm a bit late reading your post, but... methinks you make too many assumptions on all kinds of things. Question, question, question, don't make assumptions that lead to inappropriate comments. Or perhaps you're like Boris, not a details person. For starters, Eurotrash is not even in France. More importantly, have you found the link yet to support your categoric assertion that "Would be asylum seekers are legally bound to apply for asylum in the very first safe nation they reach"? (Because I suspect you were thinking of the Dublin agreement which is simply an agreement between EU member states and as such is no longer relevant to the UK.)
  6. The world according to Ken, all neatly black and white. Anything more complex than black and white is apparently difficult for some, too. https://www.habitatforhumanity.org.uk/blog/2016/09/refugees-asylum-seekers-migrants-crucial-difference/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/refugees-asylum-seekers-and-migrants/ https://www.rescue-uk.org/article/refugee-migrants-asylum-seekers-and-immigrants-whats-difference
  7. Given how hard it is to to prove that something doesn't exist, maybe it would be easier if those who claim that such a law exists, could point us to the text? I wonder if Gérald Darmanin finally managed to get through to Patel last week that the UK simply telling the French to control the UK borders better isn't good enough, the UK has to take ownership of the problem and address it properly. Anyway it appears that Johnson has just had the amazingly bright idea of setting up a group to look into the issue. Would have been good if HMG had thought of doing this a decade or so back, but hey, better late than never. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/priti-patel-set-oversee-more-25506767
  8. And you believe what you read in the Daily Mail????? The DM is not a newspaper, it's a propaganda rag. It's a mix of fact and fiction and who knows which is which. How hard is it to dress up in a POLICE suit while your mate films you? Further down the same page: "Channel migrants are set to be flown to ALBANIA to a new asylum centre at cost of £100,000-a-head a year as French deny agreeing to stop all crossings" Stated as a fact, did you believe it? But Albania has already called it out. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/migrants-flown-albania-asylum-processing-b1931430.html
  9. I thought that might be what they would say. It's like these pigs that UK pig farmers are having to send to the Netherlands for butchering because there is a butcher shortage in England, I think I read that a British pig that has been slaughtered and butchered in the EU and sent back to the UK as pork joints, can't be sold as British pork. Of course it's political, trade agreements are. You gotta 💛 Brexit. I guess either you give it a shot on the basis you're very unlikely to be checked, or you could place an order with Leclerc Drive or suchlike on your drive down and pick it up en route. Or even put your order in from Folkestone with Drive in Calais, and load it up as soon as you arrive in France. That way it's sorted.
  10. It's rather an unusual question and one to which quite possibly nobody in expatforumland knows the answer. Not really a situation that Brits living permanently in France are ever likely to have found themselves in, is it. You may even be the very first person to have asked this question! Please come back and share the answer when you have found out, it would be interesting to know. I assume you know about Leclerc Drive? You can order online then go collect your order with virtually no human contact. It's how lots of people preferred to shop in the early days of Covid. Far lower risk there, than in making the journey from the UK to France, I would have thought...
  11. I don't think most people get hot tubs for the same reason they get baths, ie to wash themselves in, do they? Hot tubs (in my experience of other people's) are outside and are for relaxing in the open air and/or social frolicking with your friends. Where I once lived in Wales, the house next door was rented out as a luxury holiday cottage and the hot tub in the back garden was supposed to be one of its "selling points". Often especially on the first day new holidaymakers arrived there was a lot of giggling and squealing coming from the garden on the first evening as took their wine outside to try out the hot tub. It clearly never occurred to them that we could see them through the hedge if we chose to look, because sometimes they frolicked starkers. I can imagine it might be quite a nice experience lying in a hot tub on a dark cold winter's evening sipping a glass of something looking up at the stars, but I doubt I'd want to do it more than once or twice. Another encounter with a hot tub was the manager of a holiday complex where I once worked who set one up outside his onsite accommodation. He was a slob and his hot tub was disgusting because it usually had wine and crisps and bits of soggy pizza floating round in it. Head office came to inspect the site half way through the season and blew a fuse because he hadn't asked permission to put a hot tub in. I think they were going to charge him for the electricity and make him get rid of it, but then he got sacked in any case.
  12. Well I suppose I have reply but frankly I don't know what you are on about. Just so we all agree on what I wrote, it was "I don't think the problem will be solved until the root cause is addressed. As long as people feel disaffected and abandoned by society they will turn to drugs as a way to escape, mentally. And as long as people at the top have too much money and too much power and consider themselves untouchable (I am thinking stock market traders and the like who apparently feel their wits are sharper when they are high on cocaine, and I do wonder how many members of HMG get stoned regularly as well) it will carry on. " Where am I blaming anybody in particular? I am just saying what seems to me obvious. The root cause is that there is a demand at at all levels of society. All drug users contribute to the problem, visibly or not. The public order problems, drug fuelled crime and drug wars and arrests and rioting etc vislble at the bottom end but the drug trade also thrives because it's also financed by those higher up. You and your mates were contributing to drug dealers' profits when you bought your pills. Pop stars and rich kids contribute big time by spending a fortune on designer drugs, plus they also set a role model that tells impressionable teenagers that using drugs is cool. Both these issues need solving. For people who turn to drugs out of boredom or desperation, it is pretty obvious that the solution is to reduce the boredom and desperation. I don't know how you do that but I see that as the most urgent end to tackle because quite apart from the drug issue, there shouldn't be a layer of society that feels it has nothing to live for. At the other end, people who take drugs because it's trendy and makes them buzz and they can afford it and they feel untouchable because they move in circles where it's accepted and even expected, the solution has to be about changing the attitude. And I have no idea how you do that. But, until both those scenarios are changed, I don't see the problem going away. The police will never stamp out the drug trade, for as long as there is still a demand. It is the demand is the root cause.
  13. I don't think I do. Our Drakeford certainly isn't the type, and I don't think Sturgeon is either I can't imagine either of them snorting a line through a rolled up £100 note. Johnson and his inner circle, with their Tory donor chums, at their off the record get togethers where backs are scratched and favours are exchanged and suggestions are made and followed up afterwards by self destructing WhatsApp messages, there I can imagine it all too easily. Can't you?
  14. Did you read all my post, or just the bit that gave you an excuse to get on your hobby horse? I am aware that curious teenagers take drugs (it was speed in my day) and that spoilt rich kids and the international movers and shakers of the world also use drugs, it's part of the lifestyle. I wasn't claiming that City traders and potentially the Johnson chumocracy are disaffected and abandonned by society, exactly. These people aren't the level where the problems are apparent, tjhey're not a social problem as long as they keep it under control. They buy their stuff discreetly, not at street corners where rival gangs fight over whose territory it is. That's where the problems are, in the places where people's lives are so crap that drugs are what they live for and they are easy targets for suppliers. No job, no money, no nice surroundings, no self respect and no respect from anybody else, but drugs make them feel better about it. Actually I'm very amused that you called me woke, it's the first time anyone has said that about me and probably the last, because I am far from it. I don't particularly want to see lots of money spent on rehabilitating junkies. But culling humans is not allowed, and society needs to rid itself one way or another.
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