Jonathon Ross returns tonight

[Dog]

[quote user="Bugbear"]To measure the position and the speed of a certain particle we need light or another radiation. When we use radiation with a long wavelength the position is inexact, but the speed is quite exact. When we use radiation with a short wavelength the position is quite exact, but the speed is inexact. This means that when we want to measure one of these things exact, we cannot measure the other thing exact, too. Some things which are explained in nuclear physics with a simple pattern cannot be explained in quantum physics so easy, too. We have this problem with the Bohr atom model. In real there are not any electrons which fly around the atomic nucleus, but you imagine that they are on certains energie levels. In this situation it is also impossible to say exact where an electron is. So here we find Heisenberg's uncertainty relation, too. But there are so called orbitals where it is very probable that there is an electron, but it is never sure. In quantum physics we have got only probabilities.



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Are you taking ether into account?

 

[Bugsy]

Absolutely, it was the prime consideration..................but it kept evaporating...............[8-|]

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[Furry Knickers]

[quote user="Bugbear"]To measure the position and the speed of a certain particle we need light or another radiation. When we use radiation with a long wavelength the position is inexact, but the speed is quite exact. When we use radiation with a short wavelength the position is quite exact, but the speed is inexact. This means that when we want to measure one of these things exact, we cannot measure the other thing exact, too. Some things which are explained in nuclear physics with a simple pattern cannot be explained in quantum physics so easy, too. We have this problem with the Bohr atom model. In real there are not any electrons which fly around the atomic nucleus, but you imagine that they are on certains energie levels. In this situation it is also impossible to say exact where an electron is. So here we find Heisenberg's uncertainty relation, too. But there are so called orbitals where it is very probable that there is an electron, but it is never sure. In quantum physics we have got only probabilities.



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Are you trying to chat me up?[:D]

 

[Dog]

[quote user="Bugbear"]Absolutely, it was the prime consideration..................but it kept evaporating...............[8-|]



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So if I am correct you are suggesting a link between the posts shown here because in quantum physics there are no states which describe both a definite position and a definite momentum. I can see the parallels. So the thinner the probable distribution is for a position the wider its momentum

Forgive my shakey grasp of quantum physics. My father unexpectedly phoned today excitedly telling me about his research on Golden Chains after five minutes I still thought he had bought a posh new toilet chain. He and one of my brothers are deeply into physics and astrology at the momentum.

I just ask them to give me a precis when they have finished.

Say la vee as they say in Globish.

[Bugsy]

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Are you trying to chat me up?[:D]

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With Heisenbergs Theory, I don't think so............[:P]

"Schrodingers Cat" was my usual chat up line..............in the days when I needed chat up lines, of course.

ps: You'll have to look it up as it takes a while to explain.

[Bugsy]

[quote user="Dog"]

So if I am correct you are suggesting a link between the posts shown here because in quantum physics there are no states which describe both a definite position and a definite momentum. I can see the parallels. So the thinner the probable distribution is for a position the wider its momentum

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I couldn't have put it better myself............

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[Dog]

[quote user="Bugbear"][quote user="Dog"]

So if I am correct you are suggesting a link between the posts shown here because in quantum physics there are no states which describe both a definite position and a definite momentum. I can see the parallels. So the thinner the probable distribution is for a position the wider its momentum

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I couldn't have put it better myself............

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So take take this a step further if you incorporate your infamous and deadly chat up line may I suggest Mr Ross is substituted for the cat. If things work out Quantum mechanics would make both sides of the Ross debate happy as he would be simultaneously alive and dead. Yet you and I know what will happen when we open the box - wasn't that a game show?

 

[Bugsy]

[quote user="Dog"]

So take take this further and incorporate your infamous and deadly chat up line may I suggest Mr Ross is substituted for the cat. If things work out Quantum mechanics would make both sides of the Ross debate happy as he would be simultaneously alive and dead. Yet you and I know the what will happen when we open the box - wasn't that a game show?

 

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Works for me..................................[:D]

Its gone a bit quiet on here, what.

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[Furry Knickers]

[quote user="Bugbear"][quote user="."]

Are you trying to chat me up?[:D]

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With Heisenbergs Theory, I don't think so............[:P]

"Schrodingers Cat" was my usual chat up line..............in the days when I needed chat up lines, of course.

ps: You'll have to look it up as it takes a while to explain.

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I would love for you to tell me about Schrodingers cat, would you tell me about it? I'm a sucker for cat chat up lines! Old Furry used his Russian blue kitten to pull me, you and him are very much alike.

Cynthia[kiss]

[Bugsy]

The story of Schroedinger's cat (an epic poem)

May 7, 1982

Dear Cecil:

Cecil, you're my final hope

Of finding out the true Straight Dope

For I have been reading of Schroedinger's cat

But none of my cats are at all like that.

This unusual animal (so it is said)

Is simultaneously live and dead!

What I don't understand is just why he

Can't be one or other, unquestionably.

My future now hangs in between eigenstates.

In one I'm enlightened, the other I ain't.

If you understand, Cecil, then show me the way

And rescue my psyche from quantum decay.

But if this queer thing has perplexed even you,

Then I will and won't see you in Schroedinger's zoo.

— Randy F., Chicago

Dear Randy:

Schroedinger, Erwin! Professor of physics!

Wrote daring equations! Confounded his critics!

(Not bad, eh? Don't worry. This part of the verse

Starts off pretty good, but it gets a lot worse.)

Win saw that the theory that Newton'd invented

By Einstein's discov'ries had been badly dented.

What now? wailed his colleagues. Said Erwin, "Don't panic,

No grease monkey I, but a quantum mechanic.

Consider electrons. Now, these teeny articles

Are sometimes like waves, and then sometimes like particles.

If that's not confusing, the nuclear dance

Of electrons and suchlike is governed by chance!

No sweat, though--my theory permits us to judge

Where some of 'em is and the rest of 'em was."

Not everyone bought this. It threatened to wreck

The comforting linkage of cause and effect.

E'en Einstein had doubts, and so Schroedinger tried

To tell him what quantum mechanics implied.

Said Win to Al, "Brother, suppose we've a cat,

And inside a tube we have put that cat at--

Along with a solitaire deck and some Fritos,

A bottle of Night Train, a couple mosquitoes

(Or something else rhyming) and, oh, if you got 'em,

One vial prussic acid, one decaying ottom

Or atom--whatever--but when it emits,

A trigger device blasts the vial into bits

Which snuffs our poor kitty. The odds of this crime

Are 50 to 50 per hour each time.

The cylinder's sealed. The hour's passed away. Is

Our pussy still purring--or pushing up daisies?

Now, you'd say the cat either lives or it don't

But quantum mechanics is stubborn and won't.

Statistically speaking, the cat (goes the joke),

Is half a cat breathing and half a cat croaked.

To some this may seem a ridiculous split,

But quantum mechanics must answer, "Tough @#&!

We may not know much, but one thing's fo' sho':

There's things in the cosmos that we cannot know.

Shine light on electrons--you'll cause them to swerve.

The act of observing disturbs the observed--

Which ruins your test. But then if there's no testing

To see if a particle's moving or resting

Why try to conjecture? Pure useless endeavor!

We know probability--certainty, never.'

The effect of this notion? I very much fear

'Twill make doubtful all things that were formerly clear.

Till soon the cat doctors will say in reports,

"We've just flipped a coin and we've learned he's a corpse."'

So saith Herr Erwin. Quoth Albert, "You're nuts.

God doesn't play dice with the universe, putz.

I'll prove it!" he said, and the Lord knows he tried--

In vain--until fin'ly he more or less died.

Win spoke at the funeral: "Listen, dear friends,

Sweet Al was my buddy. I must make amends.

Though he doubted my theory, I'll say of this saint:

Ten-to-one he's in heaven--but five bucks says he ain't."

— Cecil Adams

Best explained in a french accent over a glass or two of Cointeau.

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[Dog]

In my humble opinion your chance of getting past first base using Shrodingers cat as a chat up line is confused.  I realise you wanted to acheive the superposition state but this may prove complex.

For example, if your femme fatale can be in position A and position B, she can also be in a state where it is an amount "3i/5" in position A and an amount "4/5" in position B. To write this, I'd usually say:

V= three over 5i)A+four over five(B)

In the description, only the relative size is of importance.

Please tell more how you got on using this theorem?

I am having trouble visualising it.

[Furry Knickers]

Bugsy, You must have put a good few notches on your bed post with that one[:D] I have to say that I have enjoyed you this evening[:)] Imagine last night we were at each others throats, and now you are my favourite forumite[kiss]

[Bugsy]

[quote user="Dog"]

Please tell more how you got on using this theorem?

I am having trouble visualising it.

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Would the video help.......................[:D]

[quote user="C"]Bugsy, You must have put a good few notches on your bed

post with that one[:D]

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Not really and I'm working from memory, remember..........................[:D]

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[Dog]

[quote user="Bugbear"][quote user="Dog"]

Please tell more how you got on using this theorem?

I am having trouble visualising it.

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Would the video help.......................[:D]




[quote user="C"]Bugsy, You must have put a good few notches on your bed post with that one[:D]
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Not really and I'm working from memory, remember..........................[:D]


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A video may help but was she VHS or PAL?

[Bugsy]

Super 8 even...........................[:D][:D]

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[Furry Knickers]

Was she the reason for the demise of Betamax?

[Bugsy]

Could well be.............................[:)]

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