alittlebitfrench Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Oh dear...http://www.bfmtv.com/breves-et-depeches/la-popularite-de-macron-en-baisse-de-5-points-1373724.htmlLower than Hollande at the same moment !!!!I like Macron, he is a breath of fresh air but he is starting to have Terresa May 'fox hunting' moments.Now that Wooly called me an idiot when I said May's fox hunting crusade during the election would cost her. How right I was.Chill Mr Macron, we don't need boot camps and 80 kph speed limits. We need economic prosperity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard51 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 FYI ALBFhttp://www.staffssaferroads.co.uk/know-your-limits/why-speed-killsA couple of weeks seeing fellow human beings in a different social setting is probably a good idea for kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh4 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Albf wroteNow that Wooly called me an idiot when I said May's fox hunting crusade during the election would cost her. How right I was. You could be right but I suspect that the electorate saw through the fact that this woman ( no disrespect to women in general) seemed only capable of saying a maximum of 3 words at a time and would then repeat them ad nausium - in this case "Strong and Stable"Strong as in a bad smelland Stable as in where you keep the donkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehaut Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I do not think Military Service in the classical sense is possible. They are talking about 600,000 to 800,000 young people per year. The total French military in 2015 was 300,000. There are not the barracks to house new people, nor the Military personnel to train them. After 3 or even 6 months training, they are no use to the professional military (apart from cannon fodder). No new introduction National Service has had to cope with the rights of the multitude of divergent groups now at large in modern society.Cost will dilute it to a shadow of the proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 But even under the "old" system there were ways of not doing national service. In my company we had about 20-odd statistics a year in the UK office doing 18 months to 2 years "en entreprise" as an alternative to national service. And then when they stopped national service there was a second scheme which actually included girls (which NS didnt) and they again did a stage either in France or abroad.BTW Idun makes a valid point. Dutch friends of ours had their youngest son born in France. They all thought he was Dutch until the Gendarmes came for him 'cos he hasn't shown up for his 3 jours. According to the authorities, he was born in France and thus French enough for NS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Ummmm..What about all the thousands of French kids born in France but now live in UK.Will they have to do it ?Methinks the Gerndarmes will have to open an office in the UK. Well, and Germany, Spain ect ect to track these deserters down.Mr European Macron has not thought this one through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 In general terms it should not exempt you if you're French. Mr Betty only found out he wasn't British when he was 22. Born in Cape Town, he was eligible for South African national service. Obvs they didn't come looking for him, but he took British nationality sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyaudeman Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 A great idea about time youngsters learnt discipline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehaut Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 "A great idea about time youngsters learnt discipline"Which is exactly the reply I got when I asked a few French people (in their 30's) what they thought of the proposal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alittlebitfrench Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Let me correct you..."About time 'SOME' youngsters learnt discipline" It is about time some parents learnt some discipline as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On this, we can agree, ALBF. I've often marvelled at the rudeness and lack of consideration demonstrated by some of the over 50's to the under 20's. I always thought that leading by example was the best way, but clearly some believe that "do as I say, not as I do" is a maxim to live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyaudeman Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 The first prerogative of any government is to protect its people I suggest that means supporting a a viable arm force at all times If in need all andy pandy poofdeywoofeders need to enroll to support its nationIt will be good to identify individuals who are prepared to act in different rolls aggressive or supportive or even non participants for future national military force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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