Pierre ZFP Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 OK I admit that I've been a naughty boy and got caught for speeding. It was a cop with a hand held radar and although it was 2 a.m. I have no excuse and it was really rather stupid and dangerous (I was going rather quickly) The point is that I was stopped, details taken and because of the large excess speed, I was told it would go to court rather than on-the-spot-fine. All this was written by the cop on an official form and I was asked for any mitigating circumstances (although I was never cautioned, was I supposed to be?). Fortunately I had all my docs with me (French reg car, UK license but apparently that was not an issue)Well, I am expecting a large fine and points etc, hopefully not a ban BUT this all happend more than 6 months ago, actually nearly 7 months and I've heard nothing. I'm probably tempting fate by even asking but is there a time limit by which they must contact me? As I said I'm expecting my punishment but it's the uncertainty which is worse than getting it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Well in the UK you should receive an NIP in fourteen days. In France it's probably fourteen years..............[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 [quote user="Pierre ZFP"]Well, I am expecting a large fine and points etc, hopefully not a ban BUT this all happend more than 6 months ago, actually nearly 7 months and I've heard nothing. I'm probably tempting fate by even asking but is there a time limit by which they must contact me? As I said I'm expecting my punishment but it's the uncertainty which is worse than getting it over with. [/quote]Pierre, you read French so I think you will find easy to read these:S'il ne se passe rien lors de l'interception, hormis la rédaction du procès-verbal, il faut comprendre que deux procédures peuvent alors être déclenchées : une procédure administrative, généralement plus prompte à réagir, et une procédure judiciaire, habituellement sous forme de convocation puis d'audience devant le Tribunal de Police, celle-ci étant traditionnellement plus lente à intervenir. http://www.dca-asso.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 That's kind of what I thought - I wasn't going to enquire of them in case it jogged their memory [Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Anglia Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Go on then: how fast was "rather quickly"? And what was the limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val_2 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Our Parisien friend went through an orange light at the local x/roads and did not notice the gendarmes sitting in the car behind him. Naturally he was pulled up and given an official form which resulted in a tribunal case in this dept some months later, a 450€ fine and two points taken off his licence,he never came back for the court case and duly paid up from Paris. My husband received a penalty for speeding four months after the infraction "apparently occured" and so did our friend. I saw the centre at Rennes onthe local news where all these forms are printed out and sent off and there are thousands a month going out so delays are inevitable. Hope you didn't go "too fast" or your punishment if they do persue it could be pretty expensive and the points lost,more than one or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 [quote user="Ford Anglia"]Go on then: how fast was "rather quickly"? And what was the limit? [/quote]I am ashamed to say 96 in a 50but I thought I was in a 70 zone - not that it helps much.I didn't get any form given to me either at the time or since - they won't have forgotten though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val_2 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Isn't the limit for being over the speed limit 20kms in excess of and after that, it becomes a tribunal affair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I presume that you were in a french registered vehicle. If so you would have received a ticket and on the ticket it should show the number of points given. In France the number of points equate to the speed over the posted limit. The table below gives some indication of this but I'm not sure how up to date it is.Hope this helps...........................Over the Speed Limit(kph)Points offLicense SuspendedFine (Euros)Prison<201no135 >20 and < 30 2no135 >30 and <4033 Years135 >40 and <5043 Years135 >5043 Years1,500 >50 2nd time63 Years3,7503 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Anything over 30kph excess involves a driving ban, so it has to go to the tribunal.46kph over the posted limit means a 135 euro fine, four penalty points and a three year driving ban (except for driving in connection with your employment). You will also have to attend a safe driving course (at your own expense) in order to get your licence back.Another 4kph faster and it would have been a 1,500 euro fine, six points, the same driving ban (but this time including driving for employment) - and confiscation of your car.Edit: These are the up to date regs, BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Ouch!How times have changed - 15 years ago I was stopped for doing 120 in a 70kph zone, I got told off fairly gently, paid 600FF on the spot and the gendarmes saluted as I drove away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Animal Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 And it's easily done on a dual carriageway if you're not paying enough attention to the signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Or one of those long roads leading to Calais, where some hamlets have speed restrictions and some don't!In recent years (in Normandy at ant rate) either the signage has improved, or I've got better at seeing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Strangely, you don't see many mobile speed units when it's raining. I'm not sure whether it's the equipment or the gerndarmes that don't function in the rain..................................[Www]By the same token, they will always be out on the first sunny day after a period of cloud or rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Ours clock off at 5 sharp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Saturday morning is a dead cert round here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Now, would that be overtime, do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Prett Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 U.K. license... Be prepeared to have to change your license to a French one if you do have points deducted.Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Bugbear wrote 'Strangely, you don't see many mobile speed units when it's raining. I'm not sure whether it's the equipment or the gerndarmes that don't function in the rain..................................By the same token, they will always be out on the first sunny day after a period of cloud or rain.' I think the laser suffers from refraction or some scientific..ology type syndrome in the rain, and thus the accuracy of the machine is questionable, hence they don't work in the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 [quote user="Bugbear"] ....... If so you would have received a ticket and on the ticket it should show the number of points given. [/quote]That's the odd thing. I was not given a ticket, nada, nothing. Now I'm not expecting to get off with this, and 135 euros is a lot less than I was expecting but do you think someone did something wrong in the procedure? I was also expecting to have to change my license otherwise I would have a total of minus 4 points! which is good in the UK but not for France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 You may just be a very lucky boy then. Perhaps you should photocopy your licence and stick it next to your speedo.....[:)][:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 [quote user="Chief"]I think the laser suffers from refraction or some scientific..ology type syndrome in the rain, and thus the accuracy of the machine is questionable, hence they don't work in the rain.[/quote]It's not just in the rain thoughRead this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 [quote user="Bugbear"]Perhaps you should photocopy your licence and stick it next to your speedo.....[:)][:)][/quote]Well I've learnt my lesson I think and I'm a good boy now. I've also noticed that keeping to the spped limit has 2 effects. 1) It makes chuff all difference to overall journey times, even long distance. 2) It annoys the BMW drivers behind me who are gagging to get past (do Beemer drivers have more heart attacks than average?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 [quote user="Bugbear"][quote user="Chief"] I think the laser suffers from refraction or some scientific..ology type syndrome in the rain, and thus the accuracy of the machine is questionable, hence they don't work in the rain.[/quote]It's not just in the rain thoughRead this[/quote]The things they like to keep quiet. Perhaps all those who adamantly stick to the line of "if you don't speed, you have nothing to worry about" should read this as well, and many other articles on the subject of untested, inaccurate and faulty speed detection equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Coming home from our house in Normandy last year my husband got a speeding fine from a handheld conveniently situated with it's owner behind a bush. He got three points and paid E90. Not sure how that equates to your table Bugbear. Perhaps they were only short of coffee money. Anyway it was his own fault and I must say it has concentrated his mind; he will be more careful in future, so it seems to work.In fact he should be halfway back to the house today ----- He did send me a text message this morning to say that he had been chosen for a visit to the customs shed before embarking, I hope that the last uniform he sees today........Dave's BH [better half] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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