timc17 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Sorry my mistake. It's just a bit odd that we were not asked to name the driver though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 A couple I know were both caught speeding within a few weeks of each other.He was caught by a camera, paid the fine and although the letter said he would lose a point, he was never asked to present or send his UK licence.She was stopped by a gendarme, fined and was told to exchange her UK licence for a French one so the point could be deducted. This was followed a few weeks later by a letter asking her to present her French licence to the gendarmerie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groslard Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 [quote user="Clair"]She was stopped by a gendarme, fined and was told to exchange her UK licence for a French one so the point could be deducted. This was followed a few weeks later by a letter asking her to present her French licence to the gendarmerie.[/quote]This is the standard practice: he was lucky!"Vous avez la possibilitéde demander l’échange de votre titre contre un permis de conduire français, notammentsi sa validité arrive à expiration. Dans ce cas, il vous faudra impérativementsolliciter l’échange de votre permis communautaire avant la date de fin devalidité de celui-ci. Cet échange sera possible si les conditions ci-dessus sont remplies.Il sera obligatoire en cas d’infractionau code de la route."from http://www.yvelines.pref.gouv.fr/D%C3%A9marches/echange.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 [quote user="groslard"]This is the standard practice: he was lucky![/quote]So was I then and also my friend down the road. We have both been caught speeding, fined and given 1 point. I asked the gendarme at the time I was stopped and he advised that I would not have to exchange my licence this time but if I got any more points then yes, I would.Luck of the draw I suppose................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I have a feeling that the first name that appears on the carte grise (ie 'Mr and Mrs So-and-So' would mean Mr is first) is the one that automatically gets the point/s. If the person driving was not the first person listed, then it is up to you to contact the necessary people (prefecture/gendarmarie?). This was noted on a speeding fine we received, from a fixed camera. Obviously, if stopped by a gendarme, they should take the details of whoever was driving at the time.Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 Just to expand on Clair's point about the different approach involving the speeding couple...The processing of fixed radar tickets is automated and the deduction of points is automatically applied to the driver's licence record held on the central database. However, in the case of non-French licence holders, the licence database would return a 'not found' report, so any further action to apply the point(s) would involve a lengthy and complex manual follow up. Given the cost/benefit in pursuing a single point, I suspect that the norm is to bin them.In the case of a stop by a gendarme, the process is a manual one from the outset and the type of licence held by the driver is identified at the time of the offence. The requirement to exchange would be noted on the PV for follow up, although it seems that this is often applied at the discretion of the individual officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Thank you SD. I have referred to this story several times on the forum before and explained this, though not as clearly and succinctly as you just have [:)]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote user="Clair"]Thank you SD. I have referred to this story several times on the forum before and explained this, though not as clearly and succinctly as you just have [:)].[/quote]If you've ever met the great man Clair you would know that he just oozes succinctliness.[:D]I'm just wodering if he's got his bike ready for the summer yet............[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 Is that the same as saintliness.....? [8-|]Bike's been polished up and on the Optimate since November. Lid still needs last year's flies scraping off, though......[:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote user="Sunday Driver"]Is that the same as saintliness.....? [8-|] [/quote]Did you really not know that in our household at least you are referred to as Saint Sunday Driver? Or St SD for short? Or SD the Patron Saint of Drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote user="sweet 17"][quote user="Sunday Driver"]Is that the same as saintliness.....? [8-|] [/quote]Did you really not know that in our household at least you are referred to as Saint Sunday Driver? Or St SD for short? Or SD the Patron Saint of Drivers? [/quote]Pass the bucket someone.............I think I'm going to be............[+o(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 Will this do ya....... [IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w4/r850r/icebucket.jpg[/IMG] [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Priceless sir, absolutely priceless. [:D][:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groslard Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 So despite all the mutual congratulation what I said is right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Sorry, no, you were completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groslard Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote user="Bugbear"]Sorry, no, you were completely wrong. [/quote] I posted"there is at present no limit of age on my French licence.You can drive on a UK licence here but as soon as you get 'points' you MUST exchange it for a French one."What is "completely wrong" about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Simply because there are people who have had a point issued with a speeding ticket but have not been asked to change their licence.Therefore, for your statement to be completely correct "MUST" is incorrect and should be changed for "MAY be instructed to". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groslard Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 No the law (which I quoted in French if you can read it) is that they MUSTPerhaps some people have come across slack implementation of that law , but it doesn't change the fact that it is the law.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 [quote user="groslard"]No the law (which I quoted in French if you can read it) is that they MUSTPerhaps some people have come across slack implementation of that law , but it doesn't change the fact that it is the law..[/quote]"if I can read it"..................................c'est simplement grossier et digne sans commentaire.....[:P]You were not quoting as the law but stating, in your view, a fact.On the basis that it is not true, whether because of a 'slack implimentation' or otherwise, is immaterial. It remains a FACT that some individuals have received a ticket indicating the loss of a point but have not had to change their licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 Whilst Groslard was correct in pointing out that a licence exchange is legally mandatory in the event of an offence involving penalty points, the extract he quoted from the Yvelines prefecture website was not actually 'the law' - merely some general guidance on exchanging licences, particulary those which are due to expire. Might this have caused this confusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat paul Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I have been caught twice [:$][:$] in 4 yrs, both times less than 10kms/h above the limit, and am still on a UK licence. There was never any mention of changing over to a French licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krusty Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Time to revive this thread , I must admit I did not realise these licences only last ten years .One of those news paper links love em or hate em [Www]http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?%A3430m_photos_fee_hits_drivers&in_article_id=306020&in_page_id=34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Where's the groan smiley.................................[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Don't know why I bother....................[8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 The last sentence is the joke;"It added that photos needed to be updated to stop them being used fraudulently"Once again the honest law abiding citizen pays the once every 10 year licence tax whilst the criminals still get their forgeries exactly as they have always done [:'(]As an aside, how many practice goes did you have I wonder to get your signature to fit in that stupid 1" x 1/4" box on the application for. Net result for many is that the signature, further reduced and replicated on the plastic licence, bears little if any resemblance to your normal unconstrained one so what exactly is the point [blink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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