Frederick Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/opensecrets/2010/01/mot_failure_rates_released.html The list previously held secret...Of makes and models of cars which were to fail their first MOT... Obtained by the BBC under Freedom of Information Act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Raw data which is fairly meaningless at this stage, but hey....[;-)]Once they do further analysis and profile ownership, usage, maintenance, and discard the vehicles which failed due to a blown bulb on the way to the test centre then it'll be worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 But surely if 30% of a certain make fails a MOT e.g. Ford Transit, that percentage is still significant even if the data is raw. On the other hand, I suppose that it could say a lot about Transit drivers?P.S. I had a Transit for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 The only thing it really says about Transits Cathy is that they will mostly work for a living, likely covering prodigious mileages in the process, and hence will suffer correspondingly more problems and breakdowns. As SD says raw, unweighted date, is practically meaningless.If you want a more balanced view seek out the JD Power surveys. They rely on data from cross section of owners and usage patterns therefore their conclusions are far more representative of the real world.What this data is potentially useful for is to prove that the first MOT should not be based on something as meaningless as the mere passage of a set period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I once had a Lancia Beta..... It was virtually all rust by the time 3 years were up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Bit like the AlfaSud then, brilliant car but no worries about the MOT because it would never have lasted that long [blink]The statistics do bring into question the proposal for UK to move to a 4 year 1st MOT and 2 year renewals, as it is currently in France of course.http://www.mot-reminder.com/facts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Driver Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Back in the early 80's, the company I worked for had a new car stocking finance arrangement with Fiat/Lancia and part of my work involved carrying out dealer inventory checks. At that time, Lancias weren't the best of sellers and most of the unsold new cars were slowly rusting away in the dealer compounds. Shortly afterwards, the Daily Mirror ran a sensation piece about rusting Lancias which led to Lancia withdrawing from the UK market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 It's all out there somewhere.....................[:D][:D][:D]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjgHSqdY5nQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 [quote user="AnOther"]Bit like the AlfaSud then, brilliant car but no worries about the MOT because it would never have lasted that long [blink]The statistics do bring into question the proposal for UK to move to a 4 year 1st MOT and 2 year renewals, as it is currently in France of course.http://www.mot-reminder.com/facts.html[/quote]I had TWO Alfasuds over a period of 5 years in the early 80's, brilliant little cars and both passed the MOTs easily.Sid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 The overwhelming stat is the Toyota corolla is still the greatest [:)]And I have owned four of them [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Toyota have just recalled 3 MILLION cars in the US for a faulty plate which causes accelerators to stick, after having denied the problem for quite a while. YET, as far as I can make out, there have been no recalls in Europe.I only drove a Corolla once and it was awful, mainly because the reverse gear had no positive denial system, the paintwork was flaking off and it accelerated far too quickly, so was a bitch to drive in speed limit zones. Never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dwarf Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 [quote user="woolybanana"] ........ it accelerated far too quickly, so......... [/quote]You're joking, right? It seems to me that there are far too many variables; how the owner treats his vehicle, where it is based, where the MOT is performed, even how well the owner knows the tester! It certainly would never be a stat I’d use in consideration of a new car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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