Dc Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Can anybody advise the best way of laying tiles on a wooden floor and what tile adhesive and any additives that are required? Any help greatly appreciated!regardsdc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 The trouble with wooden floors is they have a bit of give and you don't want movement that could cause the tiles to crack! I tiled a suspended wooden floor here and I first clad the floor with 15mm plywood, 12mm would have done but the local store was out of stock that day. This was screwed down, though ring nails would do, with a screw or nail every few inches. As I could not get marine ply I gave the floor a coat of resin paint before laying the tiles. The adhesive, sorry forgotten the name, was premixed and had some component which allowed it to be slightly flexible when set. All this was done on the advice of folk at Castorama which, if you don't know, is a bit like a B&Q Depot and may be owned by the same people. Bricomarche or E. Leclerc should have this sort of stuff as well. Two years later no cracked or loose tiles. Happy tiling..................John not Jackie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobc Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 This question has been raised a number of times.http://forums.livingfrance.com/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=285&MessageID=98764My postings on this topic will tell you the materials to use.As a minimum you must tile onto hydrofuge OSB (oriented strand board) rather than plywood.Ready mixed tile adhesives are intended for wall tiling - not floors.Find a decent professional carrelage supplier in your area and explain what you want to do. Better quality product and cheaper than the 'bricos'.If you have any specific questions, then please e-mail me directly at the address in my profile.Regards,Bob Clarkehttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/grindoux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 bet a weeks pension that no matter what you use one will come loose within 2 years. dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 [quote]bet a weeks pension that no matter what you use one will come loose within 2 years. dave[/quote]Nope, still stuck down! The premixed adhesive was for floor tiles so there.......................J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 bet you there`s one loose some where or a crack in one of the joint lines........... dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 [quote]bet you there`s one loose some where or a crack in one of the joint lines........... dave[/quote]That is very interesting, so why do you need me to have a loose tile. My dad is bigger than your dad so there!.................................J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobc Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 "bet a weeks pension that no matter what you use one will come loose within 2 years."Dave,Take the time to read my postings on materials to use for laying tiles on wood. This is a perfectly normal routine in France. As I and others have pointed out, it is is essential that the sub-floor is perfectly stable.As for cracks in the joint line - this can occur in any tiling installation, even over concrete floors - particularly given the very hot summers that we have had in France over the last couple of years.Regards,Bob Clarkehttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/grindoux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobc Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 "Nope, still stuck down! The premixed adhesive was for floor tiles so there.......................J"I would be interested in knowing the brand of the ready-mixed adhesive for floor tiles. Neither of the professional suppliers that I use produce anything similar.All of their floor tile adhesives are powder based and require mixing.Regards,Bob Clarkehttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/grindoux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 woww woow wwoww ain`t going to get into a "my dad is bigger than your .." situation over floor tiles just my own opinion have seen so many professional tile fitters do a good and proper job and for them to say bet they crack a joint line. Wood moves floors move tiles don`t. Agree flexible adhesive only comes powder based. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysfloss Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 www.parexlanko.com there is ready mixed floor adhesive in their range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyn_Paul Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Schluter make a matting which 'decouples' the tiles from the sub-floor making the tiles impervious to the sub-floor's expansion and contraction.Worth a look, although I've no first-hand experience of this product.http://www.schluter.com/english/products/2002/sectionf/ditra/601-index.htmlpaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patf Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 A related question - is it possible to stick edging/plinth tiles to the bottom of a lambris wall? What type of adhesive would be best? Pat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobc Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 "www.parexlanko.com there is ready mixed floor adhesive in their range."I must be slipping!I only use professional tiling products from Weber et Broutin and Lanko and have not come across any ready-mixed floor tile adhesive from either of these companies.What is the Lanko reference for the product that you have found?Regards,Bob Clarkehttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/grindoux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobc Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 "Schluter make a matting which 'decouples' the tiles from the sub-floor making the tiles impervious to the sub-floor's expansion and contraction."Paul,Schluter make a first-class range of tiling related products.The matting you have mentioned is fine for a 'stable' floor and will absorb very small movements caused by expansion and contraction. It will not allow for movements in an inadequately framed wooden floor.As an aside, Schluter make a superb edging strip for tiling down on to bath and shower edges which eliminates the dreaded mastic joint.Regards,Bob Clarkehttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/grindoux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobc Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Pat,You can use either Lanko 510 or Weber et Broutin Fermafix Plus.Both are ready-mixed and available in small 8kg containers as well as 25kg. Better for a small job, as once opened the mix will start to cure.Regards,Bob Clarkehttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/grindoux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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