That is a super website J-J, I have bookmarked it, thank you. I have no end of holly, hawthorn and elder but had never considered them before. I wonder if I can get out and cut something next weekend of will the sap already have risen? I also have a quantity of cherry but I have no idea how that would behave. I'm aiming (pardon the pun) for a bow of approx 70 inches, pulling around 55 lbs. That's what my English Longbow is and I'm comfortable with that. I've also had requests for American flatbows but one thing at a time! I once pulled a warbow of 220 lbs (after proper instruction) but the effort nearly killed me ! As an aside, I suppose that ash will be available in great quantities soon due to the regrettable ash die-back disease .