menthe Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 What a limited range of topics we have these days so French History is the nearest fit. I see that Macron has still not appointed his new PM. Is there always a new PM if the president is re-elected? Is poor Castex to be cast aside? Must admit I didn't like Castex when he was first elected. I compared him poorly with his predecessor and didn't like his accent or the way he always seemed to shout when he talked. Then I warmed to him as I thought he was quietly efficient and he could hold his own just fine in parliament. Does anyone have any historical knowledge of this process? What happens when it's time to elect the legislature and still no PM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 hours ago, menthe said: What a limited range of topics we have these days so French History is the nearest fit. I see that Macron has still not appointed his new PM. Is there always a new PM if the president is re-elected? Is poor Castex to be cast aside? Must admit I didn't like Castex when he was first elected. I compared him poorly with his predecessor and didn't like his accent or the way he always seemed to shout when he talked. Then I warmed to him as I thought he was quietly efficient and he could hold his own just fine in parliament. Does anyone have any historical knowledge of this process? What happens when it's time to elect the legislature and still no PM? Macron cannot appoint a new prime minister until Jean Castex and his government have resigned, which they are scheduled to do on 13th May 2022, the day after the legislative elections of the deputies. The hot tip for the new prime minister is Elizabeth Borne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 13 hours ago, Harnser said: Macron cannot appoint a new prime minister until Jean Castex and his government have resigned, which they are scheduled to do on 13th May 2022, the day after the legislative elections of the deputies. The hot tip for the new prime minister is Elizabeth Borne. Oh! How I hope Melanchon gets the job!! I follow politics and love nothing more that it to be 'interesting' With Melanchon as P.M. it would be extremely 'interesting' He hates everything I love!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menthe Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 Thank you, Hanser, precisely the information I was asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Ken said: Oh! How I hope Melanchon gets the job!! I follow politics and love nothing more that it to be 'interesting' With Melanchon as P.M. it would be extremely 'interesting' He hates everything I love!! As the president appoints the PM why would Macron appoint Melenchon? Oil and water spring to mind! As for my hot tip about Elizabeth Borne I just took a look at her record- Graduate of the College of Engineers, the National School of Bridges and Roads and the Ecole Polytechnique Senior civil servant at the Ministry of Equipment Advisor to the Ministry of National Education to Jack Lang then to Lionel Jospin Technical Advisor in charge of Transport in the office of Prime Minister Lionel Jospin SNCF Strategy Director Director of Concessions at Eiffage Director General of Urban Planning at the Paris City Hall Prefect of the Poitou-Charentes Region Director of Ségolène Royal's cabinet at the Ministry of Ecology Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of RATP (2015) Minister attached to the Minister of State, Minister for the Ecological and Inclusive Transition, in charge of Transport (May 2017 - July 2019). Minister of Ecological and Inclusive Transition (2019-2020). Minister of Labour, Employment and Integration (since July 2020) Impressive - But far too knowledgeable for Macron to appoint her, she knows 10,000% more than he does about what makes things tick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Ah! But can she cook? Probably has won master Chef sometime too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menthe Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 I agree with your thinking re Mélenchon, Harnser. Macron has a healthy majority and doesn't need "cohabitation". Harking back to history again, has a president ever re-appoint the same PM after winning a second term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menthe Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 Elizabeth Borne it is then, Harnser. Some commentators in the French media are calling her a Mrs Thatcher figure!!! So is Macron really lurching to the right? Can he still call himself a centrist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 She is known to be of the Left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Mélenchon would break the French economy, a Corbyn figure with silk suits, massive ego and a cloud cuckoo philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, anotherbanana said: She is known to be of the Left. She is also known for liking bicycles. That's bicycles for us, not for her, she will have a ministerial chauffeur driven car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Ah well, Borne it is. Never been elected to anything but no doubt bright. Shame It isn't Mélenchon, he would certainly have livened up French politics! Let's face it Micky Mouse could be P.M. as it simply doesn't matter, Castex can testify to that!!! There is only one person running France and it certainly isn't the P.M. or the government!!! And yes she is certainly a dyed in the wool socialist prone to giving money away so will be popular! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 It may seem strange to us that someone who is not from the Assemblée should be appointed PM unlike say UK. I guess this produces a government of technocrats. Whether that is a better system than other countries ( eg Trump!) is open to debate. At least they have their feet on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, anotherbanana said: It may seem strange to us that someone who is not from the Assemblée should be appointed PM unlike say UK. I guess this produces a government of technocrats. Whether that is a better system than other countries ( eg Trump!) is open to debate. At least they have their feet on the ground. Macron has his feet on the ground? Personally I prefer Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menthe Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 Castex was also a technocrat. I have read that some of these technocrats run things very efficiently. Many technocrats through the years have been responsible for "making things work" in large cities. They become mayors. I believe that Grenoble used to be held up as an example of what a modern French city should look like. Mind you, the book I read was written a few decades ago. I don't feel on such firm ground talking about present day France.....simply do not know or understand enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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