Gluestick Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 This latest news is rather worrying. An excellent article in the Grauniad, yesterday. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/26/vaccine-resistant-what-scientists-know-new-covid-variant Further information will be found on the CDC site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Interesting article. I guess it will never really end. Will life EVER become 'normal' again? We'll be hunting down our 3rd dose this coming week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 My wife and I had our booster jabs quite some weeks ago. The problem seems to be, Lori, that the current range of vaccines may well not prove effective: which is the worrying aspect. Two reported cases in the UK, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 We all have to be vaccinated. And the vaccines have to be updated. And we have to be cautious. And mask up. And keep sensible distances. And keep out of crowded places. And…….. phew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 There is conflicting information concerning this new variant. Just as there was from the start of this two years ago. I read that this new variant is super contagious in one newspaper and in anther it isn't something to worry about! Often it is the way the 'news' is presented that frightens the life out of people. As of this moment, for example, hospitalisations, and deaths are as before; more or less yet the reporting of it has been, as usual, panic inducing!! Having had my three jabs I feel reasonably secure and happy to try and live 'normally'. Even went to dinner last night at a friends where there were several others; Even cuddled the host when I left, or rather she cuddled me I should say. It did seem strange after nearly two years that someone should 'touch me' Paranoid? Probably, If I start sneezing anytime soon I shall think it's the end!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehaut Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Strange how quickly the daily deaths become the new norm. 100 a day at present in the UK, about half that in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Lehaut said: Strange how quickly the daily deaths become the new norm. 100 a day at present in the UK, about half that in France. Our youngest daughter in the UK is a hospital manager in a large hospital in Manchester, she reported a couple of days ago about thirty covid patients with one or two in ICU. Virtually all are unvaccinated, so not too much cause for concern she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teapot1 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The South African Doctor actually treating people said so far the effects are very mild, fatigue is the sign.So dont panic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, Teapot1 said: The South African Doctor actually treating people said so far the effects are very mild, fatigue is the sign.So dont panic! Too late!! Panic is the starting point these days. Mass hysteria encouraged by the press is the norm! I read the comment by the doctor some days ago, it was way down on the pages of newspapers and just a couple of lines, not even reported in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 28/11/2021 at 08:49, Lehaut said: Strange how quickly the daily deaths become the new norm. 100 a day at present in the UK, about half that in France. It depends on how deaths are reported, UK death figures are people who die having tested positive in the last 28 days, a fair percentage of those people usually have other problems the French don't say how their figures are arrived at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 If the figures for new cases round here are anything to go by I suspect that the French have many more cases than they are admitting to. This ‘distortion’ is probably caused by a lower level of testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluestick Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 The core problem, of course, is that Governments are faced with either telling the truth and facing massive panic and civil unrest, or trying to logically deal with the problem. Hm...Governments being logical? A non sequitur, I fear! The MSS (Main Stream Media) are today, sadly, noted as trying to publish biased erroneous information to mainly increase circulation or site hits. I have discounted info from the WHO for some time now, as it has become political. For me, the very best source of unbiased knowledge is now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) based in Atlanta, Georgia. Mainly since their infeed, emerges from leading global research labs, top epidemiologists, Immunologists and Micro-Biologists. Q.V. https://www.cdc.gov/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehaut Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 We went to book our third vaccination this morning, respecting the 6 month rule. The pharmacy was heaving with people doing the same thing! Evidently the new delay is down to 5 months as of 5 days ago. Did not know this. For over 65s, the current continued validation of the Pass Sanitaire is predicated on you having the third vaccination at or before the 6 mth anniversary, plus a leeway of an 4 extra weeks. This works for us as we are booked on an SNCF train with a valid pass. If, however, they change the 6 mth rule to align with the new 5 mth directive, it could catch some people out over the holiday period. As of 29 Nov the old rules still apply. Hopefully they don't change the Pass Sanitaire rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherbanana Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Thanks for the information, LH. All seems bl**dy complex. Are they excluding left handers too?? I’m already vax boosted plus flu jabbed; can't be much more, can there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabtree Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 The boss of Moderna has said today that he thinks the current vaccines will not be totally effective against the new variant. He expects it will take a good few months to develop a new vaccine to counter it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betise Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 23 hours ago, Lehaut said: We went to book our third vaccination this morning, respecting the 6 month rule. The pharmacy was heaving with people doing the same thing! Evidently the new delay is down to 5 months as of 5 days ago. Did not know this. For over 65s, the current continued validation of the Pass Sanitaire is predicated on you having the third vaccination at or before the 6 mth anniversary, plus a leeway of an 4 extra weeks. This works for us as we are booked on an SNCF train with a valid pass. If, however, they change the 6 mth rule to align with the new 5 mth directive, it could catch some people out over the holiday period. As of 29 Nov the old rules still apply. Hopefully they don't change the Pass Sanitaire rules. You have to have had the 3rd dose within 6 months plus 4 weeks from your last dose. Allowing people to take their booster from 5 months after their last is purely to give people more time, it has nothing to do with invalidating the pass sanitaire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teapot1 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 19 hours ago, crabtree said: The boss of Moderna has said today that he thinks the current vaccines will not be totally effective against the new variant. He expects it will take a good few months to develop a new vaccine to counter it. Just keeping his shareholders happy! The information continues to arrive that omicron, whilst able to transmit easier has less serious effects, mainly fatigue. In that case better to catch omicron covid and have the best immunity going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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