Taxe d'hab and fonciere

[idun]

 How much have they gone up this year.

Last night's news had one pensioner saying that his d'hab has gone up by about 250€ and most french pensions have not gone up at all for the last three years, (apart from those who got the higher amount, they got an increase[8-)]) This pensioners apparently had not gone up.

[ssomon]

If he or she has so much income that they are still liable to pay the full taxe d'habitation they can probably afford to pay it...............

[EuroTrash]

My foncières has stayed the same. Some elements have gone up slightly but others have come down by about the same amount.

Presumably the pensioner was only talking about foncières because the taxe d'hab bills haven't been sent yet.

[NormanH]

I think the item idun is referring to concerned a Maire who was faced with a lot of expenses in the commune...not a general hike.

[idun]

Hmmm, when people

say impots locaux, what do they mean? For those who don't own

property they would mean taxe d'hab, for those who own, would mean

both. In this article they only said impots locaux and those in their

town had gone up by 15% this year.And that is a lot, as they said, pensions have not gone up!

http://pluzz.francetv.fr/videos/jt20h_,127695084.html

22minutes 50 in.

[Gardian]

There are any number of reasons as to why either of the local taxes may have increased.

Obviously, a pure & simple increase, but in most elements of either tax, it isn't likely to be much.

A change in somebody's 'valeur locative' will potentially greatly affect both. For many French, this won't arise though, because they usually don't declare (or more to the point, seek original permission for) any improvements that they carry out to their property.

Next thing is any change in how 'ordures menageres' (rubbish collection) is invoiced. For us, until end 2014, it was the same amount per household. Now it will be collected at a rate of 11.75% x half of the valeur locative. Bottom line = an increase of 50% for us. Not the end of the world, but irritating.

[Gardian]

Oh ........ and I forgot to mention anybody's RFR (basically your pre-tax income).

That affects your local taxes too.

[suein56]

[quote user="Gardian"]

Next thing is any change in how 'ordures menageres' (rubbish collection) is invoiced. For us, until end 2014, it was the same amount per household. Now it will be collected at a rate of 11.75% x half of the valeur locative. Bottom line = an increase of 50% for us. Not the end of the world, but irritating.[/quote]

Since we arrived in France in 2005 we have been used to paying pro-rata for our rubbish tax depending on the valeur locative so it seems normal to us. Any other way of calculating the amount due would seem odd; so I suppose it depends what you are used to.

Other than that there are some communes that impose a value depending on the weight of the rubbish thrown away. That method sounds fair but, apparently, leads to an increase in fly-tipping.

Consequently it seems to me it is difficult to find, and therefore enforce, a method of charge which is acceptable to most of the inhabitants of a commune.

Sue