Mr G Glitter

[woolybananasbrother]

I sit on me brother's shoulders and we wear a dishdash. Wow do the ladies jump when they see his nose. He has the biggest nose you ever saw.[6]

[mint]

What as big as Cyrano de Bergerac's?

[woolybananasbrother]

he was a mere stripling

[AnOther]

Finally on his way to UK then [:P]

[Will]

Why is there such an outcry about one person when hundreds, possibly even thousands, who have been convicted of similar or worse offences return to their native countries after serving their time?

I'm not condoning what he has done, but to concentrate the bile and venom on one individual solely because he used to be well known reeks of hypocrisy and the missing of an important point.

[Cat]

I would concentrate my bile and venom on anybody abusing children, famous or not. He may have served his time, but he is still a convicted paedophile. He's not likely to reform now is he? 

I see that he's arrived in the UK.

[Polremy]

I think your comment is the most sensible one I have read on this thread, Will.

Some remarks made me feel really uncomfortable.

[AnOther]

Is there an outcry ?

I think most are just savouring this particular individual getting his just rewards. It might help if he displayed a hint of remorse or contrition but quite the reverse, he appears to be enjoying his notoriety. I don't see where hypocrisy comes into it, personally I detested him as a pop star too.

I don't doubt that he's but one of hundreds or thousands but without actively seeking them out we will never know about them will we whereas Mr G is international headline news and hard to ignore.

If you can give us some names of others I'm sure we can arrange to direct a bit of bile and venom their way too.

[valB]

I feel very uncomfortable with any one who abuses children, famous or not. The hype over him is because he is famous and sadly we do not get to hear about most of the animals in our midst if we did then I am sure it would be the same reaction by most folk.  Two of my granchildren were having private one to one music lessons a few years ago by a guy who also taught in many schools and he was eventually sent to prison and is now on the sex offenders list. My grandchildren, fortunately, were not involved but the thought of someone in a position of authority doing things like that makes me feel sick. So maybe Mr Glitter, because of his so called fame thought he could get away with it but there is a limit to what money can buy.

[Polremy]

have sent you a pm, valB

[Ron Avery]

[quote user="valB"] So maybe Mr Glitter, because of his so called fame thought he could get away with it but there is a limit to what money can buy.[/quote]

But there was no limit to what he could buy, it is there for sale and he was not the first to avail himself of it was he?  Surely the issue before anyone gets high and mighty is why the girls were available in the first place and what that country and others in the region had done up to then to stop child prostitution.

As far as Gadd is concerned, its not as though he used his looks or fame to procure them did he? He just paid the parents or minders just as many other EU and US citizens had before him.  If one good thing comes from his conviction and bear in mind he may actually not be guilty of what he was accused of, its that these countries and the EU and USA have at last stopped turning a blind eye to the use of young pre-pubescent girls for their sex trades and so called sex tourism.

[valB]

Thanks and I have replied. Let me know if you do not receive it as i am not too brilliant on theis thing

[valB]

Hello Ron

Yes I totally agree with you. Many so called civilised men are exploiting these children but G Glitter is the one I know about so I have no sympathy for him . For any man to take advantage of the poverty of children is dispicable. It will always go on and nothing we say or do will stop it but the thread is about G Glitter and how some of us feel about him. You ask why the girls were available in the first place, I would have thought that was self explanitary....poverty and of course men native to their own country taking advantage of the situation they are in. No I can see that G Glitter did not use his looks or fame to get to them jsut his perverted ways.

[AnOther]

Someone had to do it [:P]

[Polremy]

were you writing to me, valB?

well, i'm not much good at these things either but i cant see a pm in my inbox.

oh, to hell with it, why not just put it on the forum for everyone to see?

[Cat]

If you are looking for a PM, use this link... http://www.completefrance.com/cs/user/PrivateMessages/

On another note, if Mr Glitter were to apologise, sign the register, perhaps release a record with all profits going to a child support charity, could anyone forgive (if not forget) his past actions?

Or is he past redemption?

[woolybananasbrother]

Hi, Randy here.

Didnt Mr Glitter say he wanted to buy a house in France somewhere. I am sure he mentioned the Dordogne.

[valB]

Hello Polremy

I thought I had sent an email to you, see, I am hopeless at all this. No, It was in the West Country but I would imagine it is a countrywide thing to lots of people in that sort of position. Fortunately, at least the two we know of were caught, sentenced and put on the register and will never be allowed to go anywhere near children again.

[Frederick]

Its not just a question of poverty that puts these girls of a very young age into the hands of men for sex...it could be in their culture...In Australia for instance aborigional girls can be "promised " by their parents  to someone at an age we would consider it  illegal to have sex...The authorities have a big problem dealing  with this as many will not accept  the "White " law  over their traditional way of life ...How many aborigional   " pedophiles  "  end up in the Australian courts ? .....I dont know the answer but I would imagine  not many ....Its the likes of Gadd  that take advantage of this  .....Look what happened on Pitcain Island for example .....

[Chancer]

I also felt very uncomfortable with some of the comments made regarding GG and agree with Ron.

He was convicted and served his sentence in the UK for possessing images of child pornography, he broke the law, was guilty and served his time as did many other "prominent" public figures but what of those who actually produce and host these images? Perhaps they were real images of the children being abused, no doubt they are still available on the internet.

His conviction I think in Cambodia (I am uncertain as I was travelling at the time) I recall resulted from his teenage prostitute girlfriend introducing her younger sister to his sexual favours, for money of course and then for more money from the media after he was caught in the (for him) honey trap. Again what action was taken against the victims sister and parents?

His high profile conviction and prison sentence has served as a warning to other sex tourists but the children are still being sold into prostitution as are children in other countries who have their limbs amputated in order to increase their begging revenue.

There are many thousands I believe who have had to sign the sex offenders register (remember GG's UK conviction did not require this) how many of those have had their passports taken away or face the sort of threats expressed here.

[Clair]

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/matthew-norman/

[Cat]

Interesting article Clair.

The two girls that he was convicted of molesting were hardly teenage temptresses, they were aged 11 and 12. 

This was not a crime that he was forced to commit due to poverty, it was either a personal choice or "grievous curse".  Once on the sex offenders register, he will find it more difficult to re-offend in this country, and many other countries will simply refuse to accept him.  If he is allowed to keep his passport would he then try to seek admittance to those countries still willing to turn a blind eye to this kind of abuse?  Is it acceptable that he should be allowed to do so?

He has done his time, yes.  Now it is not a question of punishing him further, but rather ensuring that he is not given the opportunity to re-offend.

 

 

[Frederick]

I believe the legal age for sex in Vietnam is 18.................They have hundreds of thousands of prostitutes and they say 30% of them are under 16.....Given their history of war and a country full of  visiting troops ....and the devistation .....you can see how it has come about ....for some of these women having  sex must have been the means of  survival for them and their families and its now a way of life for many

[Chancer]

A good well balanced report Clair.

Wont sell many papers though [;-)]

I actually feel sorry for him having to return to the last place in the world that he would feel even the slightest bit secure and if he is not allowed to leave.......................?

[Iceni]

[quote user="J.Rs gone native"]

I actually feel sorry for him having to return to the last place in the world that he would feel even the slightest bit secure and if he is not allowed to leave.......................?

[/quote]

I don't have any sympathy for the perpetrators of crime, just the victims. PG chose to be a criminal and ought to suffer the consequences of his actions.

John