Bugsy Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 On tonight at 20.30"It recently announced controversial plans for a single communicationsdatabase that will contain a record, though not the content, of everye-mail, text and mobile phone call made in the UK and of every web pagebrowsed".[:@] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Well that's just plain crazy to have a single database. What you want is a distributed database like Google use so if one bit fails the rest just carrys on.Or is that not what you meant?Personally I think such a thing has existed for years, run by those nice people in that big 5-sided office block in Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 And that little place at Cheltenham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugsy Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Another bit"This became even more concerning when I learnt about governmentplans to place my seven-year-old daughter on a national database. Adatabase which until now I had no idea would include her. Super database planContactpoint, due to be launched next year, will be a compulsorydatabase containing key data on all of England's eleven millionchildren and it will be accessible to 300,000 of the people who workwith our children." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 And a short time after that a large chunk of that data will be copied on a USB stick and left on a bus by some Numpty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Shades of 1984...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 and it will be accessible to 300,000 of the people who workwith our children."And anyone who regularly travels by tube, breaks into cars or just happens to like memory sticks. [6]EDIT Sorry Pierre, I just noticed that you already said that. [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Does the European court accept this?And of the 300,000, how many are pedophiles or know pedos and will pass them the kids' details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Dick...I suspect its the little place at Cheltenham that wants to become a bigger place with the kit installed to check out conversations by Skype users and .MSN etc and read My Space & Face Book messages.... together with us lot on here in case we are using this forum to plot a revolution......mind you there are a few here that just might want to start one off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 That's if they ever manage to get a computer project finished, on time, on budget etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The UK National Pupil Database has existed for some time. The purposes include maintaining easily-searched data on performance and efforts to ensure that all pupils do actually go to school... In general it makes monitoring more efficient and much, much cheaper.I did some work on it about 2003-4. It is as well protected as you would hope, and apart from a few key individuals (the ones who have full access) there is no chance of taking any data off-site. After a lengthy application process which has to go through a committee of senior people it is possible to get some anonymised data, and people concerned with pupils can pull data down in the form of correlations and searches, but these are anonymised as well. Of course schools hold full data on their own pupils, but then they always did.I am afraid that in the end you have to accept that we now live in a world of electronic communication and data storage, and buy a pair of big-boy pants. Either that or go and hide in the woods.Remember, that the 'lost' data isn't lost - an extra copy of a subset of the data is at large. In no cases are there any ill-effects noted from those extra copies of the data. It is quite possible to be unnecessarily hysterical over this issue.Worry instead about the data that commercial organisations are building up about you, and the uses to which that will be put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 [quote user="woolybanana"]Does the European court accept this?And of the 300,000, how many are pedophiles or know pedos and will pass them the kids' details?[/quote]The 300,000 are teachers, school administrators, Local Education employees and health professionals.What nasty little insinuation are you making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 As many nasty little people amongst that lot as anywhere else.The 'take it or leave it' philosophy you seem to advocate is a simple cave in to a brutally controlling establishment that is increasingly distant from the general mean and an unwillingness to be counted. Society does not have to go that way, it is not inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I love the smell of paranoia in the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Smith Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 [quote user="woolybanana"]As many nasty little people amongst that lot as anywhere else.[/quote]Actually not, as all of them will have been subject to a police records check.So still an unsubstantiated, nasty little comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 No, just a dose of realism to counter your sell out to centralizing crushing bureaucracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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