Dog Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 http://www.vhemt.org/The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement is an interesting organisation especially when we read in other posts about the incredible rise in humans. I would suggest to anyone that they consider the ideals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Mr C and I have been saying this for years. We've done our bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex H Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I guess a few more people could do with reading that sitehttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5618449.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Don't get me started!Somehow pregnancy should be something deliberately chosen, rather than something to try and remember to prevent.Surely in this day and age, it should be possible to organise - everyone is sterile until they decide they wish to procreate.Add the injection to the BCG or whatever innoculation is given around the time of puberty.Bit like changing energy provider - people will give proper thought and do their homework before they change the status quo. oh, dear. you did get me started. my pet theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Good to see others share the same view. I have never bred and I am sure there are many that will concur with that!Years ago I contacted the man that started the site and he allowed use of the logo etc in UK and sent some bumper stickers.If you want to see some intellectual debate see the sites forum - I cannot understand some of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 [quote user="bubbles"]Don't get me started! Somehow pregnancy should be something deliberately chosen, rather than something to try and remember to prevent. Surely in this day and age, it should be possible to organise - everyone is sterile until they decide they wish to procreate. Add the injection to the BCG or whatever innoculation is given around the time of puberty. Bit like changing energy provider - people will give proper thought and do their homework before they change the status quo. oh, dear. you did get me started. my pet theory.[/quote]Yes Bubbles I would love to get you started. I agree that breeding is not a right.Even more annoying is when the government encourage people to breed. But just as with immigrants the government are short sighted and only interested in tax revenue and power that comes from having more people.The world is dying under the demands of humans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote user="Dog"]I would suggest to anyone that they consider the ideals. [/quote]I have done my bit too, having felt that way from a very early age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 I have worked the problem out - the others do not know what fecundity means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 very interesting dog - haven't read it all yet- but we do. A lot of food for thought. I am the mother of 2 adult daughters, with a grandson nearly 3 and another grandchild on the way. So far I've held the belief that 'fairly intelligent, well educated people, socially aware and contributors in many ways + trying to leave as little environmental impact behind them' should have a couple - to find solutions for the future. Sorry if this seems arrogant. I will read the counter argument again when I have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 My point is that it should be a positive decision to procreate.Nobody should ever become pregnant by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I think that "nobody" is a bit sweeping, Bubbles, even though I am 100% anti-procreation. The planet doesn't need more of us, it needs far fewer. The only people who benefit from over population are those already on the planet. The future will be bleak indeed for everybody's young if they are arguing over the last bit of earth to scrape a living from.However, I can see that it is hard to persuade imerging nations that this is the case. Also those of faiths like Catholocism (like most of my Mother's family) some of whom still believe they face an eternity in hell if they use birth control. Pretty grim old choice for them, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Well, I must have been very selfish then, because the best experience in my life was being pregnant and giving birth .Difficult to explain, but that was part of becoming my true self.I understand your point, but I think it concerns developing nations more, where birth control does not exist at all.And would it be fair to deprive a woman who wants to feel life growing in her from that experience, to bring frustration and sadness in her life?Sorry, but I wish I could have had more babies, cos I can bring them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babcock Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Has anyone read P d James' "the children of men?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 no tell us more please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Cutting all allowances for more than 2 children per family would help, to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 better tell the French then - some people almost make children their job. Read a lovely little book called 'les petits enfants du siècle'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 People who want more than two kids should pay for them and a special environmental tax, like a 4x4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Let them make little children or else Who's going to pay my pension ?? [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 There were a couple of interesting articles about this topic in the Sunday Times this weekend:http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article5627634.ecehttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article5627484.eceWhen I read about the birth family of the octuplets in the US, I do think some have gone too far in facilitating the "right to procreate".http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1876232,00.html?imw=Yhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/02/earlyshow/health/main4769209.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odile Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 agreed 6+8+IVF=ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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