France bans burka, now do it in England

[Marym2]

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151891504

They have now changed the headline to France backs partial ban, although the headline in my standard is France to ban Muslim full-face veils on buses

[velcorin]

No they haven't.

[NormanH]

Tripped over your prejudices didn't you [:)]

[KathyF]

Not only that, but there seems to be considerable doubt whether they ever will.  Recommending and achieving are not synonymous. [:)]

[Marym2]

Whatever has been said its sparked a lot of ideas now Italy is looking at it.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23800701-italy-to-follow-france-with-muslim-full-face-veil-ban.do

[Mr Wiggy]

What ever happened to the old addage,When in Rome do as the Romans do. They should be a complete ban on the BURKS wearing the Burka.

[Bugsy]

[quote user="Mr Wiggy"]What ever happened to the old addage,When in Rome do as the Romans do. [/quote]

I'm not sure if I could cope with all those orgies any more [:D]

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This whole thing has turned into a religous/political argument when really, it boils down to the simple fact that western society has always relied on facial contact in all aspects of life. Our perception, right or wrong, is that anyone hiding their face creates a feeling of suspicion and mistrust.

Walk into a western bank wearing a balaclava and check out the reaction.

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[Mr Wiggy]

Trust you! A nice thought though.

On the other matter I do concur. Another point is: How do they have their Passport photo's taken? As a pair of eye's or lift the veil and show a full frontal.

[KathyF]

Full-face.  Most photo booths have a curtain, so no problem about being seen in public. If you need an interview for a passport, you have to have your face uncovered.  Reason I know all this?  I've just renewed my passport and it's all in the explanatory leaflet. [:)]

I'm guessing that when you get to passport control, there will be a procedure for the check to be done in private.

Not quite sure what all the fuss is about. Only a small minority of Muslim women in the West go about with their faces veiled.  To be honest I'd rather that than to have to see a lot of people (and not only women) going about with their skimpy clothing revealing what would be much better left covered. [:D]

[Mr Wiggy]

Kathy F.

Have you been to Sparkbrook, Sparkhill, and Small Heath in Birmingham,these three places alone are rife with the Burka, and from what friends inYorshire tell me Bradford is the same also in Leicester.

[Sunday Driver]

Thank goodness the burka is alive and well in all those places, otherwise we might not have the pleasure of all their great baltis and curry houses......[;-)]

This topic has the potential to turn into another immigrant bashing, racist thread. 

 

[KathyF]

I would still hazard a guess that it's a minority of all Muslim women in Britain and probably a small one.  It's just that burkas do stand out, so you notice them. The burka isn't universal wear in all Muslim countries by any means, and the same is true among Muslims in Western Europe.  I repeat, I can't see what all the fuss is about.

[chrisb]

Addage? Wasn't that what we used before electronic calculators were invented?

As for "When in Rome....." we can adopt that as a rallying cry the day that all ex-pat Brits start adopting French customs.

A better general motto to live by is "never trust anyone who wants to ban anything".

[chessie]

Chrisb - 'never trust anyone who wants to ban anything...'

So obviously we all don't trust politicians - lying load of b-----s as far as I'm concerned.

But we're talking about Islam and the Burkha and the Hijab.

You do realise that the 'creed/cult' of Islam involves banning homosexuality, and destroying the Jews ?

How does that chime in with all the tolerant/liberal/do-gooding that is being pontificated about on this post ?

So by your lights then Chrisb - we 'shouldn't trust Islam'....

Oh dear - cabin fever again

Chessie

[Quillan]

Christianity is not much better if you want to take the bible literally or interpret it to your own ends.

[Bugsy]

[quote user="Bugbear"]

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This whole thing has turned into a religious/political argument when really, it boils down to the simple fact that western society has always relied on facial contact in all aspects of life. Our perception, right or wrong, is that anyone hiding their face creates a feeling of suspicion and mistrust.

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Repeated so I can  rest my case [8-)]

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[cooperlola]

[quote user="KathyF"]

To be honest I'd rather that than to have to see a lot of people (and not only women) going about with their skimpy clothing revealing what would be much better left covered. [:D]

[/quote]Here, here.  Let's ban shorts on men for a kick off. [+o(]  Unless you have the pysique of the average rugby player, best cover them up, chaps!

[Quillan]

Good idea Coops in fact lets ban cloths completely, think how better of we would be financially. [;-)]

[Cendrillon]

Tesco have banned people from shopping in their pyjamas![8-|]

[NickP]

[quote user="Cendrillon"]Tesco have banned people from shopping in their pyjamas![8-|]
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But who wants to shop naked in Tesco? [:D]

[Quillan]

I seem to remember there was a time when supermarkets had 'themed' evenings like single nights, dance nights etc and I am sure that I saw on the news some years back that one supermarket somewhere had a naturist evening. [:P]

[Quillan]

There you go I knew I was right, well partly.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/252396.stm

[velcorin]

Interesting idea from my BiL who is a police sgt in Paris. "It would be much more sensible, to send all the people who have a problem with seeing little people dressed in black tents, to see a psychoanalyst, to get over their phobia, rather than arrest the object of their irritation."

[Mr Coeur de Lion]

[quote user="Quillan"]

There you go I knew I was right, well partly.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/252396.stm

[/quote]

That's funny. Health and safety has to stick its nose into everything though lol.

Jeez, back in the caveman days, shopping naked in Tescos was the norm.

[Weedon]

Help me with this one.  Do the Tesco naked shoppers go into the changing cubicles to try on the clothes?