mint Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3781715/How-good-English.html[/url]Didn't bother with the article but I thought the poem was fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Used to use this with my advanced students. There are a few YouTube videos of people reciting it, too. From memory, even they struggled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 It's fun!I've used parts of it too, with French people in advanced conversation classes. They found it staggering that there were so many ways of pronouncing similar-looking words, even worse than some British place names such as Leicester, Worcester, Happisburgh, Reading etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 Happisburgh, where's that?Edinburgh can also be tricky as some people say Edin-bo-ruh and others say Edinbruh.I used to live near Honiton in Devon and some people say the first bit like HONey and others say it like it is spelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 It made me smile. I might if I am feeling brave get Mrs Rabbie to try it or perhaps not.Names are of course even trickier. My favourites for catching people out are Cholmondley, Featherstonehaugh and Kirkcudbright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 It's actually quite fun as an exercise in working out pronunciation whilst learning about rhyming and scansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiseau Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Wonderful, mint!Thank god to be born with English as mother tongue, cos it must be an impossible language for a foreigner to speak perfectly.AngelaPS. I stayed with some Australian rellies in a Brisbane suburb called Alcester. I commented on the coincidence that I had grown up near the English town of the same name (using the English pronunciation, of course). They looked mystified to start with, and then said "oh, you mean Al-kes-ter!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 [quote user="mint"]Edinburgh can also be tricky as some people say Edin-bo-ruh and others say Edinbruh[/quote] The locals tend to say Edinburry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I didn't know about 'Edinburry', Rabbie, but if it's only locals who call it that, it's not so surprising.Mint, Happisburgh is a village in Norfolk which has become much smaller than when I first visited many years ago, due to erosion - sadly, a number of houses have fallen into the sea. The oldest evidence of human occupation anywhere in the UK is there; a few years ago, footprints in sediment were dated to 800,000 years old. The nearest pronunciation of Happisburgh is Haysbrough/Haysbru.I included the town of Reading in Berkshire as all the French people in our English conversation group insisted it was 'reading', which is very understandable; they were fascinated to know that with a capital letter it's the town of Reading. Interestingly, there was a centre for reading in Reading - confusing or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mint Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 Thank you for your explanation, GG.I can think of something similar to Reading. Alas, know that town only too well, or at least those bits of it where my professor of studies resided[:(]I also think of lead as in direct from the front and lead as in what goes into your pencil.Spent a pleasant afternoon in Keswick once, learning about how pencils were made but Keswick again is a name that might throw a foreign person![:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre ZFP Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Try THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCCMB Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 ???I always rather enjoyed introducing my students to the many and various ways of pronouncing "ough".We don't make it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Wrotham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 When English is the tongue we speak Why is break not rhymed with freak ? Can you tell me why it is Namely is written viz ? Will you tell why it’s true We say sew but likewise few ? And the maker of a verse Cannot match his horse with worse Beard sounds not the same as heard Cord is different from word Cow is cow but low is low Shoe is never rhymed with foe Think of hose and dose and lose And of goose and yet of choose Think of comb, tomb and bomb Doll and roll and home and some And since pay is rhymed with say Why not paid with said, I pray ? We have blood and food and good Mould is not pronounced like could Wherefore done but gone and lone Is there any reason known ? Is there any sensible ground To say wound for hurt, while string is wound Do you call it equity To say mutton and yet mutiny Do you think it really wise To speak advertisements if you advertise So in short it seems to me Sounds and letters disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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